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let's get this ride moving the planet of

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the Masters almost surely have a plan

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this clearly may be something there

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you think you know the less you really

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do that's true dr. Zaius uh with cuz we

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without tea

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all right higher side chatters we know

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all too well that there is plenty of

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power hidden behind the veil and

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unfortunately for us the earth has a

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rich history of control by vast

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interlocking networks of think-tanks

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multinational corporations secret

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societies esoteric orders and hidden

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finance seers all aimed at crafting

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society to their will and molding modern

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man as they see fit

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and while the conspiratorial baton has

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changed hands many times throughout

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history when it comes to the world stage

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today

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it's the post-world War two Nazi fascist

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international that our returning guest

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Joseph Ferrell has been tracking over

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the course of several years and their

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fingerprints seem to be on much more

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than you might think today we're going

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to focus on the content of his latest

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two books rotten to the common core

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public schooling standardized tests in

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the surveillance state and also hidden

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finance rogue networks in secret sorcery

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the fascist international 9/11 and

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penetrated operations both being further

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examples of amazing titles and

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examinations of where we see the game

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plan of this capstone cabal and the

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events and initiatives that reek of

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their underlying agendas one of my

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favorite guests and yours the man who

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died sex the plan Joseph P Farrell

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welcome back to the higher side thanks

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Greg thanks for having me back

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yeah honored a pleasure my good man you

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really are one of the greats I'm really

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excited for this and when I saw that

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rotten - the Common Core was coming out

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I was pumped because the education and

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schooling slice of the conspiracy pie is

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one that I think needs more attention

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because it affects us all so deeply I

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mean how could it not be rare you know

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we're forced to spend over a decade of

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our formative years under their

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nefarious guidance and slow slowly

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strips us down to nothing more but cogs

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in the machine and it leaves people

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unfulfilled often for their entire

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lifetime but even though compulsory

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schooling was sort of weaponized from

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the ground up they definitely seem to be

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tightening the screws so to speak with

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this new common core curriculum don't

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they oh absolutely absolutely you know

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the title says it all my co-author and I

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have both been involved in education in

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our lives he still is I was fortunate

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enough to get out although at the time I

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didn't think I was too

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fortunate but you know I saw the worst

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of the worst and to me doing the book

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was kind of it was kind of a bit of

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karma for me being able to expose some

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of the things that I saw going on as a

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professor one of my favorite anecdotes

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about the whole education methodology as

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it's taught in American quack edenia and

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that's how I refer to it is this shot

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through with psychological assumptions

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philosophical assumptions but my

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favorite anecdote from my teaching days

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was the fact I used to teach a variety

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of college-level history courses in

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modern European history Russian history

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even at one point I had to substitute

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for another professor who was on leave

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for a semester so I took his diplomatic

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history of the United States course and

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that I taught but in teaching modern

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European history I used to give essay

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exams for the most part because I'm

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adamantly against the idea of the

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standardized test being able to capture

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anyone's process of the reasoning so in

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the end the examination the first

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list five things that the Treaty of

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Versailles stipulated with regard to

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Germany you know easy question you can

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write out your five answers and in the

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question obviously I had to spell

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Versailles the ER SI IL le s okay fair

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enough and the student answered and

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incidentally the student was an

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education major all right and this just

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goes to show as far as I'm concerned how

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colossal e stupefying

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and stupid icing the American

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educational system really is because

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this student responded by spelling

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versailles v ER SI GH huh verse

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versailles okay when it's spelled

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correctly in the question itself right

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so you know there's there's such a

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disconnect here that this whole

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methodology is made that people aren't

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even capable of thinking anymore

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so anyway that's that's kind of my

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anecdote to get it started

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fair enough and that really does go

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hand-in-hand with what I had is a first

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question for you which is early on in

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the book you do say that our focus is

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not so much upon the content or the

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standards themselves but rather upon the

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assessment process and its implicit

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consequences for parents students and

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the teaching profession right can you

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elaborate on that assessment process why

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it's so concerning and what it does

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exactly all right well the problem with

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most of the debate as far as my

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co-author and I were concerned with

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Common Core is that everybody's focused

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on the standards themselves well to us

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this was kind of a clever distraction

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because no one to my mind that is

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involved in education would question the

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idea that there is a certain central

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core or body of knowledge that education

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is designed to hand out whatever the

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subject matter you might be teaching be

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it history or physics or mathematics or

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music or whatever there is some sort of

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core that everybody acknowledges is

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there although individuals might draw up

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a different list as to what that core

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might be but their substantial agreement

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the real problem for us with Common Core

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is not in the actual idea that there

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should be some sort of common standard

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of disciplinary content that gets

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transmitted but rather the idea that you

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can assess that core solely on the basis

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of standardized tests because what

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Common Core does is it takes the

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standardized tests philosophy the a CT

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the SAT Iowa test the basic skills that

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we all grew up having to fill out our

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little ovals making sure to stay inside

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the lines of their number to let pencils

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and so on and so forth is the idea that

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these tests can test reasoning process

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at all they can't what they're doing is

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they're providing you with a

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pre-selected list of answers that you

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have to choose from these answers

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oftentimes punish the student that is

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much more aware of the subtleties of

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certain things than the test makers them

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so that's the first problem but the

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second problem is that common core's

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assessment process supposedly takes the

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standardized test to a new level by

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making the test questions individually

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adaptive and responsive to the way the

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student answers the previous question

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alright so in other words we're looking

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at the standardized test on steroids

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because like all such things these are

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proprietary property you cannot go in

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and look at the algorithms the people

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involved in setting up these tests and

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so on and so forth so again you as a

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test taker are put in to an even more

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insidious box of having to read the mind

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of the test preparers hmm and to guess

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their answers my classic example of what

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the standardized test the problem of the

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standardized test is first of all it's

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designed to reinforce an official

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narrative let me give you an example you

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might encounter on a standardized test

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who assassinated President John F

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Kennedy well the answer is Lee Harvey

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Oswald right mm-hmm but will those tests

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ever give you the option of selecting

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from say an answer that would say a

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conspiracy involving a coalescence of

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interest involving you know anti-castro

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American intelligence community or what

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have you because once you get into that

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kind of question then you're required to

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not only know of that research but be

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able to argue the case well these tests

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do not allow you to argue your process

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of reasoning for anything they simply

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make you a passive regurgitator of

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answers that they have pre-selected and

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that you simply select as the proper

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response right and they would argue that

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this is all scientific when we go into a

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lot of detail about some of these test

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questions that have appeared on previous

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tests and they're anything but you know

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you might be able

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to come up with a correct answer in a

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mathematics question but again part of

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deriving that answer is to show how you

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derive it I mean that's part of the

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mathematical process itself it's part of

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mathematical proofs so it's not simply

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selecting an answer it's showing how you

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reason to that answer

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and none of these tests do that so

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Common Core puts this all on steroids by

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making it individually adaptable your

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response is individually adaptable to

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the individual student you know so this

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this to me is the indicator that it is a

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huge data mining operation number one

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and number two with the standardized

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test particularly in this instance where

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it's individually adapted what this

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means is that the test itself becomes

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kind of a loyalty test do you accept the

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standard narrative are you capable of

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knowing it and regurgitating it or do

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you not so you know there's any number

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of ways to look at this but the bottom

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line is for us it's just a massive

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expansion of the surveillance state and

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it's handing over in the guise of

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education to these testing corporations

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mountains of data which again are

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proprietary to them they can in turn use

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that data sell it and so on and so forth

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so as far as we're concerned it's a huge

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huge scam I'm right there with you

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cheers to that

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and I I love the old George Carlin line

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that they just want obedient workers and

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I think that the best term for what

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they're trying to churn out yeah and uh

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you know I got some friends I think a

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lot of people do who might be in the

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teaching profession and I thought about

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as I was going to this book how would

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they respond to some of these things and

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really the question that I think they

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don't ask that you do in the book is

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when was the last time that a teacher

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went went to a seminar something to

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study their actual discipline as opposed

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to the new standard for how they're

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supposed to quote manage their class

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right exactly exactly

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American crack edenia is focused on what

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I consider the claptrap of educational

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methodology so in other words school

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districts will pay you

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to go to conferences or require unions

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in many cases to stay after school and

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attend the latest workshop where you

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basically are subjected to all sorts of

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childish activities that are passive

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aggressive in nature designed to make

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you be a team player and all of this you

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know codswallop

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but basically you would be hard-pressed

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to find a teacher say a teacher of

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English that would be paid to go attend

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a conference in the latest scholarship

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in literary criticism or the latest

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findings on such-and-such an author you

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know and scholarly research or if you're

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a mathematics teacher going to a

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conference of mathematicians and hearing

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the latest papers in mathematics they're

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not interested in other words in the

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content of the disciplines that you are

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supposed to teach what they're

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interested in is making the teacher a

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kind of equivalent to a paralegal in

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other words the teacher is now kind of a

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licensed pair of psychiatrist who gets

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their certification in applying the

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latest psychological or educational

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theories in the classroom and that's

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what they spend most of their time with

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these conferences quote-unquote learning

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to do again for me this is a clear sign

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that that American education is failing

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simply because you know an English

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teacher is there to teach English not to

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teach the latest psychological theory so

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you know this is the other big problem

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that we're facing with all of this

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claptrap there's another thing since you

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raise this issue that we learned about

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after the book came out a teacher

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emailed me and said that she is

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absolutely refusing to go along with

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Common Core because it also stipulates a

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universal kind of lesson plan for the

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teachers in her school district so in

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other words whether this whether or not

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this teachers students are ready at a

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certain time to progress on to the next

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level of whatever discipline they're

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supposedly studying she's mandated to

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proceed regardless so in other words you

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know what teacher can teach in an

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atmosphere like that this is

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just another example of the

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centralization mania that is afflicting

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this country we know that centralization

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doesn't work for the simple reason that

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every group of human beings from

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elementary school classrooms all the way

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up to Wall Street every group of human

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beings is going to respond differently

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so you know the whole thing is is shot

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through with all of these assumptions

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that as far as we're concerned just mean

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that the whole thing is a huge scam it's

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not going to fix anything the only thing

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it's going to do is make these companies

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even richer as the public trough mm-hmm

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yeah well said and those are pretty

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telling elements and let's look at some

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of the the people and the money behind

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this thing because people tend to think

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philanthropists like Bill Gates and

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their foundations who fund education are

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doing charitable works just the best

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altruistic stuff but of course what are

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the red flags that you see that tell you

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that there's a deeper agenda here they

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don't have our best interest at heart

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well first of all the idea that these

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foundations are philanthropic is the

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first problem what these foundations are

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and we have a chapter in the book about

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foundations themselves and how they

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arose and what they really do what they

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do educationally is they act as

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gatekeepers for the officially approved

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narratives is what they do and they fund

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those who agree with those narratives

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and withdraw funding or keep funding

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from those who don't so this is the

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first problem the second problem with

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these foundations and this is an

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observation that was not made by us it

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was actually made by the Council of the

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rece Committee in the US House of

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Representatives back in the 1950s it was

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investigating foundations a fella by the

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name of Rene Wormser and worms are made

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the observation that what these

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foundations in effect are are the way

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that the wealthy can retain control of

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their wealth while putting them into a

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special chartered entity that avoids

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taxation because these are nonprofit

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entities so in other words it gives them

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a huge amount of power and he made the

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observation that because

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as of this phenomenon the closest analog

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to them were the medieval military

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orders like the Templars or the hospital

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errs more than the Teutonic Knights

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because what were they while they were

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essentially tax-exempt charitable

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foundations that allowed the

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intergenerational accumulation of

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capital on the one hand and allowed the

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people that were members of that order

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or in this case foundation to control

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the uses of that capital and to drive

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political agendas I look at mr. gates

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and his backing of common core with with

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a very jaundiced skeptical eye for the

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very simple reason that again under the

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computerized individually adaptive

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assessment process which again is

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standardized testing on steroids now

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what he's really doing is driving an

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agenda simply designed to put more and

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more profits into his computer

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technology companies that's all it is so

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this is not an education solution

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there's even a case that we put in the

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book of a common core conference of get

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together where they invited everybody

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except guess what teachers Hickel are

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they invited administrators and

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superintendents and principals and so on

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and so forth but no teachers because of

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course that's where the rubber meets the

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road and most teachers I've talked to

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you are simply appalled at what they see

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in common core so I get again you know I

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really question whether or not these

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foundations really are philanthropic to

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begin with I think all along they've

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been designed to promote the agendas of

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the super-rich and you know we see where

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that's ìletís yeah not only is it better

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for them in terms of expanding wealth

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and power as well as limiting liability

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they also get the PR currency for all

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these quote noble deeds that nobody ever

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looks deeper on exactly so if we go back

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a few years and look at who laid the

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foundation for what we have now and who

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should we be holding responsible

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yeah you paint a nice bold target on

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this ville

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I'm Vaughn's character as well as John

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Dewey can you talk to us about them a

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bit and some of the history here well

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this is very very crucial for people to

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understand why American education and

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I'll be just very blunt here why

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American education sucks vilhelm vote

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was basically one of the founders not

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only of psychology but of educational

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psychology and his philosophy was that

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if we were going to put psychology on

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any sort of scientific footing at all we

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had to be able to reduce it to a

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materialistic approach because only the

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material in that kind of nifty Cartesian

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dualism between matter and mind could be

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measured you know the mind was something

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that was personal subjective and all of

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that it couldn't be measured you

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couldn't take out a tape measure and

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measure it so he began for one of the

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better expression the materialistic turn

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in psychology and he set up a laboratory

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at the University of Leipzig in Prussia

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at the time and began to churn out

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students that he had trained in this

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approach to psychology and basically

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it's a very important to remember that

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Pavlov was one of his students because

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Vogt took the approach that because of

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the fact that the then reigning

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scientific paradigm was materialism that

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the humanity itself the human being as

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an individual and humanity as a

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collective was basically a stimulus

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response mechanism so in other words the

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educator had to design appropriate

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environments in the classroom and this

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is why teacher certification here is now

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important and why I suggested earlier

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that the teacher is nothing but kind of

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a parapsychologist and in this view

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because the teacher is supposed to

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design the most apt stimulus response

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environment for the student to learn it

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so there is your turn away from the

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content of the discipline to a focus on

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the methodology of actually

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communicating that discipline in that

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context so

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he trains a whole generation either

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directly or through people that he is

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trained who then train others who

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influenced American education at the end

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of the 19th century and all the way on

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into the 20th and I would even include

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people like George as counts or James

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bryant conant of harvard university or

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even henry Chauncey who sets up the

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Educational Testing Service in Princeton

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as people that were imbibed with this

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philosophy of humanity as a stimulus

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response mechanism it works out very

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well if you have that philosophy for

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Madison Avenue and Wall Street you know

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because you're creating a generation of

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consumers rather than people who can

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think critically about anything so it's

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had a huge huge effect on American

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education now you mentioned Dewey but

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there's a whole host of other people we

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could mention here Thorndyke the fellow

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that I forget his name was Abraham Exner

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I think was his name let's set up his

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own kind of progressive education school

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where he wanted to test some of these

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ideas and he called it the Lincoln

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School to give it a nice patriotic

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sounding American name and we we bring

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out the fact that john d rockefeller

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sent his three sons David Lawrence and

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Nelson Aldrich to this school where as a

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result of their experience all three of

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the rockefeller brothers had difficulty

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reading they don't enjoy reading in fact

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they find it tedious they find it

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difficult well you know I'm sorry if

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you're a member of the elite and you've

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sent your kids to that kind of school

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then you're ending up with a stupid

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elite and we're in an election cycle

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that certainly is proving that to be the

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point

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you know they've surrounded themselves

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with their own philosophy to the point

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that they can't even think outside their

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own narratives anymore so this is the

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other danger of Common Core I think in

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the whole progressive education

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philosophy the materialism that

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underlies it you're basically to

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paraphrase CS Lewis you're turning out a

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whole generation of men without chest so

551
00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:38,800
in other words of men without virtues or

552
00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:40,840
moral principles or anything like that

553
00:23:47,610 --> 00:23:45,670
and that is to my mind that's the

554
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:47,620
crucial component of being able to think

555
00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:49,510
critically about anything about a

556
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:51,940
narrative and so on and so forth so it's

557
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:54,610
had a huge effect this vilhelm blunt

558
00:23:59,700 --> 00:23:57,610
character and you know the interesting

559
00:24:03,570 --> 00:23:59,710
thing here that we have to ask ourselves

560
00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:03,580
Greg is why would American educators at

561
00:24:11,820 --> 00:24:09,480
that time use an example of oppression

562
00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:11,830
education not we're not even just

563
00:24:17,070 --> 00:24:13,960
talking you know Imperial Vilhelm in

564
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:17,080
Germany here we're talking Prussian for

565
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,450
the whole philosophy of education under

566
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:21,760
grunt was we're turning out people to be

567
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:24,850
good and obedient there's that key word

568
00:24:32,910 --> 00:24:29,290
and loyal products for the state because

569
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:32,920
the state is all consuming the state is

570
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:34,930
all-powerful in the Prussian model

571
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:38,110
why would Americans turn to that model

572
00:24:44,370 --> 00:24:42,190
as a thing that they want to model

573
00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:44,380
American education on why did they

574
00:24:49,140 --> 00:24:47,140
abandon the tradition that we had

575
00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:49,150
inherited from you know the oxford

576
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:52,300
universities in england and which played

577
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:54,310
a huge role in setting up our own big

578
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:56,050
name universities Harvard Yale Princeton

579
00:25:00,980 --> 00:24:58,570
and so on why would we abandon that

580
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:00,990
tradition for something inherently alien

581
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:03,850
to our philosophy of government to our

582
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:06,190
philosophy of culture to our

583
00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:08,890
understanding of individual liberties

584
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:10,840
and and so on and so forth why would we

585
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:11,290
do that

586
00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:13,840
and the answer is when you read these

587
00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:16,870
people they really do believe in that

588
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:19,720
Prussian philosophy they really have

589
00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:23,170
abandoned their commitment to that

590
00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:25,720
anglo-saxon tradition of individual

591
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:29,020
skeptical critical inquiry so you know

592
00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:31,420
it's it's staring us right in the face

593
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,580
if we stop and think about the obvious

594
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:35,200
part of it mm-hmm

595
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:38,050
well said and I do love that Rockefeller

596
00:25:42,060 --> 00:25:41,049
anecdote because for once it looks like

597
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,070
they actually got a little bit of a

598
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,159
taste of their own medicine and yeah

599
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:46,480
it's nice to see that once in a while

600
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:48,610
but I guess you know you kind of alluded

601
00:25:53,729 --> 00:25:51,369
this but it does seem like that has

602
00:25:55,499 --> 00:25:53,739
shown itself in the game plan today they

603
00:25:58,229 --> 00:25:55,509
don't seem to be quite as nimble or

604
00:26:00,659 --> 00:25:58,239
effective in some ways or at least as

605
00:26:03,450 --> 00:26:00,669
quick to be able to pivot as they once

606
00:26:05,489 --> 00:26:03,460
were wouldn't you say right well well I

607
00:26:08,609 --> 00:26:05,499
guess I would agree with you

608
00:26:10,529 --> 00:26:08,619
wholeheartedly several years ago on The

609
00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:10,539
Late Georgeann Hughes's radio show

610
00:26:17,369 --> 00:26:13,749
called the bite show I pointed out that

611
00:26:19,950 --> 00:26:17,379
the so-called elite really seems to be

612
00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:19,960
very very stupid in other words they are

613
00:26:24,539 --> 00:26:21,940
using the same playbook because they

614
00:26:27,109 --> 00:26:24,549
don't know anything else they have done

615
00:26:30,389 --> 00:26:27,119
to themselves down in the process of

616
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,399
dumbing everybody else down to the point

617
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,320
and this is something that the Katherine

618
00:26:38,999 --> 00:26:35,200
Fitz made me aware of last year last

619
00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:39,009
year in July The Economist magazine in

620
00:26:44,849 --> 00:26:40,950
Great Britain which you know most people

621
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:44,859
think of as the magazine of record for

622
00:26:51,349 --> 00:26:47,710
the British oligarchy all right well

623
00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:51,359
last July in 2015 The Economist magazine

624
00:26:57,149 --> 00:26:55,080
ran an op-ed piece about the

625
00:26:57,539 --> 00:26:57,159
calcification this is their words not

626
00:26:59,340 --> 00:26:57,549
mine

627
00:27:01,950 --> 00:26:59,350
the calcification of the American

628
00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:01,960
political class and the effect of the

629
00:27:04,859 --> 00:27:03,399
article was you're kidding you're

630
00:27:07,619 --> 00:27:04,869
running Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton

631
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:07,629
again you know can't you guys come up

632
00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:09,220
with something different well the

633
00:27:15,090 --> 00:27:11,830
answer's no because because our own

634
00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:15,100
political elite has been calcified it

635
00:27:22,049 --> 00:27:17,769
can't think outside of its own construct

636
00:27:23,849 --> 00:27:22,059
and its own box and this you know the

637
00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:23,859
election that we're seeing now as far as

638
00:27:28,649 --> 00:27:25,980
I'm concerned is really a referendum

639
00:27:30,899 --> 00:27:28,659
it's not an election in any classic

640
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,909
sense it's really a referendum on do we

641
00:27:35,129 --> 00:27:33,039
want more of this global centralization

642
00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:35,139
and these idiots running the world and

643
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:37,299
running it according to a paradigm

644
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:39,369
that's never been tested or proven and

645
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:42,190
seems to be breaking down under the

646
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:43,929
strain or do we want something different

647
00:27:50,879 --> 00:27:48,369
I really look at it that way and if you

648
00:27:53,249 --> 00:27:50,889
factor in education here and the

649
00:27:54,430 --> 00:27:53,259
material is turned that it took in the

650
00:27:57,130 --> 00:27:54,440
19th century

651
00:27:59,050 --> 00:27:57,140
I think what you're looking at is the

652
00:28:02,440 --> 00:27:59,060
collapse of that materialist philosophy

653
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:02,450
these people are clinging to it Greg

654
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:06,110
dogged Lee when science itself

655
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:07,970
particularly quantum physics is

656
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:11,120
increasingly pointing not toward a

657
00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:14,270
material primacy but really towards the

658
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:16,460
primacy of mind and of consciousness

659
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:20,090
itself so why would we stick to Bill

660
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:23,210
Gates and these other people that are

661
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:25,850
advocating the same-old same-old on

662
00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:26,810
steroids

663
00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:29,020
and not reassess the basic philosophical

664
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:31,640
principles that have led to this

665
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:34,880
educational mess that you know as far as

666
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:37,520
I'm concerned Greg the way to solve it

667
00:28:42,610 --> 00:28:39,470
is first of all get rid of the

668
00:28:45,550 --> 00:28:42,620
requirement for teacher certification it

669
00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:45,560
is to the point you know I have a PhD

670
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:47,420
from the oldest english-speaking

671
00:28:52,570 --> 00:28:49,570
University in the english-speaking world

672
00:28:55,540 --> 00:28:52,580
all right now incidentally that

673
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:55,550
university has never been accredited by

674
00:29:01,690 --> 00:28:58,130
any American accreditation agency thank

675
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:01,700
goodness but I cannot go into a high

676
00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:05,090
school classroom and teach American

677
00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:07,270
history or European history or whatever

678
00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:09,380
because I don't have a teaching

679
00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:12,440
certificate from some Teachers College

680
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:15,920
where I spend time learning the latest

681
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:19,010
educational claptrap in playing silly

682
00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:20,480
games and quite literally that's

683
00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:22,790
oftentimes what these courses consist of

684
00:29:28,990 --> 00:29:26,120
is playing games right so we have to

685
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:29,000
examine the whole structure as far as

686
00:29:32,650 --> 00:29:30,530
we're concerned and this is really kind

687
00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:32,660
of what we were arguing in the book we

688
00:29:38,050 --> 00:29:34,340
have to examine the whole structure

689
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:38,060
itself and you know we're in basic

690
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:40,310
agreement with john taylor gatto you

691
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,990
know the famous american teacher that's

692
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:44,240
written so many books yes and he's you

693
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:45,650
know he's come right out and said the

694
00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:47,330
whole system has to be completely

695
00:29:54,670 --> 00:29:50,540
scrapped no amount of money is going to

696
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,680
fix this because the assumptions and the

697
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:57,200
institutions put into place on the basis

698
00:30:01,900 --> 00:29:59,210
of those assumptions are completely

699
00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:01,910
fallacious mmhmm yeah yeah I mean the

700
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:03,620
elite are getting what they pay for they

701
00:30:07,930 --> 00:30:05,690
built this thing to churn out obedient

702
00:30:09,879 --> 00:30:07,940
workers and it's working just great

703
00:30:11,470 --> 00:30:09,889
yeah you know and not and now we have

704
00:30:12,249 --> 00:30:11,480
bank managers it can't balance a

705
00:30:14,379 --> 00:30:12,259
checkbook

706
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:14,389
you know also it's no wonder that we

707
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,700
have trillions of dollars from accounted

708
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,799
for the Pentagon or in this bank or that

709
00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:20,960
Bank because when you're dealing with

710
00:30:27,129 --> 00:30:24,740
stupid people the immoral people the

711
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:27,139
greedy people the criminal class can

712
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:29,450
thrive right and then that can be a

713
00:30:33,539 --> 00:30:31,610
silver lining or an even scarier

714
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:33,549
assertion depending on your perspective

715
00:30:40,629 --> 00:30:37,730
precisely precisely hmm so we have this

716
00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:40,639
campaign to dumbest down and then we

717
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:42,309
could also throw in this element of

718
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:44,690
drugging us down which is something that

719
00:30:49,210 --> 00:30:47,360
happened Oh a bit later right yeah well

720
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:49,220
we don't talk about that much in the

721
00:30:57,369 --> 00:30:52,970
book but that's quite true I mean I I

722
00:31:01,570 --> 00:30:57,379
have known and dealt with people that

723
00:31:05,049 --> 00:31:01,580
are genuinely ADHD adult attention

724
00:31:06,879 --> 00:31:05,059
deficit hyperactivity disorder I've met

725
00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:06,889
and dealt with people like that so I I

726
00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:10,060
do think it does exist however

727
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:12,700
I think the other problem here is that

728
00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:15,310
basically and this is particularly true

729
00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:17,350
of little boys less so of little girls

730
00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:21,040
but basically they're diagnosing simple

731
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:23,470
you know young male behavior all the

732
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:25,960
time as ADHD and they're drugging these

733
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:28,090
kids with all sorts of stuff that

734
00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:31,450
basically turns them into zombies mm-hmm

735
00:31:36,420 --> 00:31:33,820
not in contact with their emotions not

736
00:31:39,030 --> 00:31:36,430
in contact with their thought and above

737
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:39,040
all not able to reason or think

738
00:31:44,550 --> 00:31:41,410
critically this goes back to why I

739
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:44,560
always insisted as a professor on giving

740
00:31:51,780 --> 00:31:47,110
essay exams because it's in the act of

741
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:51,790
writing that you you learn the art and

742
00:31:57,810 --> 00:31:55,210
craft of analyzing a position and

743
00:32:00,120 --> 00:31:57,820
arguing either against it or for your

744
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:00,130
own position or for that position or

745
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:02,130
what-have-you it's in the act of writing

746
00:32:08,270 --> 00:32:05,170
that you're actually reasoning something

747
00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:08,280
not simply spitting out an answer that

748
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:11,080
the student is having to guess that the

749
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:13,270
professor or the teacher or some hidden

750
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:16,510
committee compiling test questions for

751
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:21,010
standardized tests wants so for me the

752
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:24,130
critical thing as a professor back when

753
00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:26,550
I was teaching was to be able to see if

754
00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:29,680
someone was genuinely engaged

755
00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:31,990
intellectually with the subject matter

756
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:34,540
and able to understand it and argue a

757
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:37,450
position based on the facts and data

758
00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:39,400
that they had been presented that for me

759
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:41,620
was the key element and you can't get

760
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:43,270
that on a standardized test and

761
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:45,730
certainly can't get it on a test that is

762
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:48,220
now computerized individually adaptive

763
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:50,230
according to the latest psychological

764
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:52,270
theory by a committee of test compilers

765
00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:55,030
in Princeton New Jersey or in Seattle

766
00:33:00,060 --> 00:32:58,030
Washington or wherever mm-hmm right and

767
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:00,070
did the all-mighty infallible system

768
00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:02,590
it's like yes exactly right there to

769
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:04,600
using the teachers as scapegoats and

770
00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:06,250
trying to say you know yeah these are

771
00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:07,540
the school suck is because these

772
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:09,400
teachers there's no standards the

773
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:11,530
teachers oh yeah exactly you know it's

774
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:15,970
all the teachers for me and if anything

775
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:18,970
what this system has done greg is it has

776
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:21,250
created what I call the subversive

777
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:23,310
teacher and the subversive student

778
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:25,810
because their art and if you're a

779
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:27,880
teacher listening to this and you

780
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:29,890
probably have experienced this in your

781
00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:33,850
own career because the system dictates

782
00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:36,220
to you that you have to do such-and-such

783
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:39,400
by such in such a time and get such and

784
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:41,050
such a result on such and such a

785
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:44,170
standardized test and you realize at

786
00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:46,330
some point when you're in the classroom

787
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:50,260
teaching a group of people that this is

788
00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:52,390
simply not going to work for these

789
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:55,270
people so you teach your discipline to

790
00:33:59,730 --> 00:33:57,970
the best that you can and it's in those

791
00:34:01,740 --> 00:33:59,740
subversive moments usually between

792
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,750
classes that you have with students who

793
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:04,000
are beginning to ask the right kind of

794
00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:06,610
questions and questions what is going on

795
00:34:10,650 --> 00:34:08,080
in the system that you have those

796
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:10,660
conversations that expose the whole

797
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:12,610
thing so in other words you're creating

798
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:15,730
an underground here that is trying to

799
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:18,870
preserve what's left of the Western

800
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:21,090
civilization and is traditions of

801
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:24,280
Education by content and discipline and

802
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:27,070
critical reasoning ability but you're

803
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:28,690
working against a system that is

804
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:31,480
designed not to do that so you're

805
00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:33,970
literally creating a black market for

806
00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:36,070
these things and and I suspect

807
00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:37,600
eventually that's what's going to happen

808
00:34:41,670 --> 00:34:39,430
right you're going to have a massive

809
00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:41,680
black market of private tutors you know

810
00:34:46,620 --> 00:34:44,140
of people that can afford it and want

811
00:34:49,110 --> 00:34:46,630
their kids to learn something and learn

812
00:34:50,910 --> 00:34:49,120
a value mmm-hmm and the other thing that

813
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:50,920
this system does and I'll be quite frank

814
00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:53,470
and I saw this over and over again when

815
00:35:00,300 --> 00:34:55,840
I was teaching the other thing that this

816
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:00,310
system does is it produces waves of

817
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:04,750
boredom tidal waves tsunamis of boredom

818
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:07,930
right because most students are talked

819
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,370
to at such a stupid level by the system

820
00:35:17,070 --> 00:35:14,320
that they know they're being taught down

821
00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:17,080
- mm-hmm I can't tell you how many times

822
00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:20,080
I heard when I was a professor Greg you

823
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,700
know students would come up to me after

824
00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:23,920
the end of a course or something and say

825
00:35:28,850 --> 00:35:25,480
something to the effect that you're the

826
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:28,860
first real professor I've had huh

827
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:30,780
because I insisted at teaching at a

828
00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:33,150
genuinely collegiate level and not the

829
00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:36,990
dumbed down level that most professors

830
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:39,630
now teach at in this country because the

831
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:41,370
product that they're getting from the

832
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:44,040
public education system is so colossal

833
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:46,980
II stupid witness and case in point the

834
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:49,050
student who can't spell Versailles

835
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,420
correctly when I've spelled it correctly

836
00:35:58,340 --> 00:35:54,480
in the test question itself right right

837
00:36:01,490 --> 00:35:58,350
they just don't make the connection hmm

838
00:36:02,810 --> 00:36:01,500
yeah in terms of the the pharmaceutical

839
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:02,820
initiative that has got to be one of the

840
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:04,530
best things that my parents did for me

841
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:07,050
was reject those attempts to get me on

842
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:09,930
that adderall train because there they

843
00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:12,930
were there and I have a note here that

844
00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:15,420
seems kind of disjointed maybe connected

845
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:16,950
to that pharmaceutical initiative to ask

846
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:19,110
you about the Society for the

847
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:23,100
investigation of human oncology oh this

848
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,330
might be where some of the deeper

849
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:26,400
nefarious agendas show up I think oh

850
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:28,140
yeah absolutely

851
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:33,450
that was a CIA front back in the 1950s

852
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:37,170
that was a CIA front for the mind

853
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:39,510
control projects you know project

854
00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:42,300
artichoke MKULTRA and things like this

855
00:36:48,290 --> 00:36:43,800
that was set up

856
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:48,300
they in turn approached the Educational

857
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:50,010
Testing Service you know that huge

858
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:53,610
nonprofit conglomerate that squats like

859
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,520
you know a cancer in the middle of the

860
00:37:01,460 --> 00:36:58,560
American education system founded by

861
00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:01,470
Henry Chauncey and kind of wet nourished

862
00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:04,380
into existence by james bryant conant of

863
00:37:09,470 --> 00:37:07,740
harvard university during the 50s and of

864
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,480
course the Educational Testing Service

865
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:12,240
is the service that owns the scholastic

866
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:14,930
aptitude test you know one of the famous

867
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:17,250
standardized tests in this country

868
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:19,410
well they approached the Educational

869
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:22,200
Testing Service to see if the service

870
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:25,910
could design for them various tests

871
00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:28,890
related to personality and and so on and

872
00:37:34,850 --> 00:37:31,560
so forth so in other words whatever the

873
00:37:38,110 --> 00:37:34,860
details of this association are the

874
00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:38,120
implication here is that the CIA

875
00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:42,660
recognized the power of the tool

876
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,720
standardized testing as a tool of social

877
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:48,240
engineering and therefore of mind

878
00:37:52,990 --> 00:37:50,940
manipulation now I mentioned that

879
00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:53,000
because we point out in the book that

880
00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:57,030
this was really the reason that Henry

881
00:38:02,180 --> 00:37:59,700
Chauncey wanted to find the Educational

882
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:02,190
Testing Service he and James bryant

883
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:05,250
conant had the idea that well we need to

884
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:07,740
create a new kind of aristocracy in this

885
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:10,290
country an aristocracy of merit and

886
00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:13,440
we're going to go search for the best

887
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:15,120
and brightest people and we're going to

888
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:17,310
give them better education than the kind

889
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:19,020
of education we're giving everybody else

890
00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:22,910
and the way to do this is to test on a

891
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:25,950
national level and to quote unquote test

892
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:28,140
scientifically enter the standardized

893
00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:30,870
test in other words the test itself

894
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:33,600
becomes a sorting mechanism you get

895
00:38:37,630 --> 00:38:35,490
certain scores you're eligible for

896
00:38:40,580 --> 00:38:37,640
certain scholarships you're eligible for

897
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:40,590
entrance into this major university

898
00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:42,570
instead of that little university out

899
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:44,430
there in the plains of the Midwest

900
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:46,710
somewhere and so on and so forth so it

901
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:51,180
becomes a tool of the American oligarchy

902
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:54,300
to perpetuate their power and bring

903
00:38:59,960 --> 00:38:56,670
other people in the problem is of course

904
00:39:02,660 --> 00:38:59,970
that they selected what can only be

905
00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:02,670
called a kind of computerized phrenology

906
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,820
to be able to do this you know the old

907
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:07,760
idea that you could measure a person's

908
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:10,800
mental capacity by taking calipers and

909
00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:13,740
measuring them measuring the brain when

910
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:15,900
it's interesting to me because they even

911
00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:18,330
adopted the Iowa Test of Basic Skills at

912
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:20,550
one point I remember seeing this as a

913
00:39:25,010 --> 00:39:22,710
kid would have these calibers these

914
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:25,020
phrenology calibers as part of its logo

915
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:27,780
stamped right on the test so you know

916
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:31,440
they've adopted a very blunt measurement

917
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:34,650
instrument here to try and identify the

918
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:38,310
more gifted students and in illustration

919
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:40,890
of this fact we point out in the book a

920
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:44,240
number of sample test questions from the

921
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:48,450
1960s in science particularly in physics

922
00:39:52,569 --> 00:39:49,770
which is kind of my you know my

923
00:39:55,329 --> 00:39:52,579
bailiwick where the answer is

924
00:39:58,179 --> 00:39:55,339
the SAT that the Educational Testing

925
00:40:01,749 --> 00:39:58,189
Service wanted were quite patently and

926
00:40:04,179 --> 00:40:01,759
simply wrong okay and they were taken to

927
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:04,189
task at the time by a mathematician by

928
00:40:09,459 --> 00:40:06,650
the name of banished Hoffman who wrote a

929
00:40:12,849 --> 00:40:09,469
wonderful book called the fallacy of

930
00:40:14,769 --> 00:40:12,859
testing all right and Hoffman just to

931
00:40:16,749 --> 00:40:14,779
let you know who he was he was a member

932
00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:16,759
of the Institute for Advanced Study he

933
00:40:21,429 --> 00:40:18,469
was a personal friend of Albert Einstein

934
00:40:24,279 --> 00:40:21,439
so this guy is no fly-by-night and he

935
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:24,289
just absolutely savages the Educational

936
00:40:27,959 --> 00:40:25,729
Testing Service on some of these

937
00:40:31,299 --> 00:40:27,969
questions but he points out in one case

938
00:40:34,359 --> 00:40:31,309
he had a student who had taken the SAT

939
00:40:37,809 --> 00:40:34,369
and also taken a test a standardized

940
00:40:41,949 --> 00:40:37,819
test for a National Merit Scholarship in

941
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:41,959
which the word intentionally appeared in

942
00:40:46,839 --> 00:40:44,209
a list of words which they were to

943
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:46,849
identify as being misspelled and the

944
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:49,369
word intentionally was misspelled with

945
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:53,569
an S all right and the Educational

946
00:40:57,370 --> 00:40:55,729
Testing Service of course wanted the

947
00:41:00,669 --> 00:40:57,380
students to identify this as the

948
00:41:04,779 --> 00:41:00,679
misspelled word but the problem was this

949
00:41:08,709 --> 00:41:04,789
student was smart this student had read

950
00:41:11,739 --> 00:41:08,719
the works of si Hayakawa on the nature

951
00:41:14,169 --> 00:41:11,749
of symbolic logic and so on and so forth

952
00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:14,179
where Hayakawa had intentionally

953
00:41:21,609 --> 00:41:18,069
misspelled that word to create a word

954
00:41:25,539 --> 00:41:21,619
that had a very specific technical

955
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:25,549
meaning hmm so in other words the word

956
00:41:31,479 --> 00:41:28,670
wasn't misspelled and the student knew

957
00:41:33,699 --> 00:41:31,489
that it wasn't misspelled he just knew

958
00:41:37,509 --> 00:41:33,709
more than the test prepares at the

959
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:37,519
Educational Testing Service Wow yeah you

960
00:41:42,009 --> 00:41:40,160
see so this is the problem you can have

961
00:41:45,459 --> 00:41:42,019
a committee of experts and there's

962
00:41:48,099 --> 00:41:45,469
always going to be some fallacy of the

963
00:41:50,919 --> 00:41:48,109
footnote somewhere that a bright student

964
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:50,929
is going to be punished for knowing on

965
00:41:56,949 --> 00:41:53,630
the basis of these standardized tests

966
00:41:59,799 --> 00:41:56,959
because it puts them into the position

967
00:42:02,229 --> 00:41:59,809
of having to guess do they know this or

968
00:42:05,019 --> 00:42:02,239
do they not know this and if they don't

969
00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:05,029
know this then I select this answer but

970
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,260
if they do know this

971
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:09,680
then I select another answer so it's not

972
00:42:13,930 --> 00:42:11,840
a scientific measure of the students

973
00:42:17,110 --> 00:42:13,940
intelligence it's only a measure of

974
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:17,120
whether or not they can guess what's in

975
00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:19,010
the mind of a committee that they don't

976
00:42:24,910 --> 00:42:22,190
even know and now Bill Gates wants to

977
00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:24,920
put all of this on computers and make

978
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:26,920
the questions themselves individually

979
00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:30,010
adaptable by some algorithms and

980
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:33,820
theories of some anonymous committee no

981
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:39,290
no no boom there it is man ah so to get

982
00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:41,570
a little bit deeper and maybe also tie

983
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:43,100
this into some other work that you've

984
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:45,530
done I've heard you discuss the fairly

985
00:42:51,010 --> 00:42:48,410
complex elements where we see the larger

986
00:42:54,070 --> 00:42:51,020
transhumanist agenda as well as a tie-in

987
00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:54,080
of ancient esoteric doctrine playing a

988
00:42:58,060 --> 00:42:56,030
huge role in the changes that they're

989
00:43:00,490 --> 00:42:58,070
making to us through the schooling

990
00:43:02,530 --> 00:43:00,500
system maybe you can elaborate on that a

991
00:43:06,220 --> 00:43:02,540
bit and help us understand this deeper

992
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:06,230
crossroads well as I'm not quite certain

993
00:43:12,970 --> 00:43:09,650
as to what you're getting at but my fear

994
00:43:16,270 --> 00:43:12,980
is that with this idea of individually

995
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:16,280
adaptive computerized standardized tests

996
00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:19,090
that what they're building out is

997
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:23,830
basically two things they're driving to

998
00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:28,370
memes into society the first meme is if

999
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:30,320
it appears on a computer screen it's

1000
00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:33,050
true which would be you know the 21st

1001
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:35,720
century equivalent of if Walter Cronkite

1002
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:37,610
said it on CBS Evening News

1003
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:40,490
it's true okay or if the New York Times

1004
00:43:46,090 --> 00:43:44,000
says it's true all right now we see that

1005
00:43:48,730 --> 00:43:46,100
mass media paradigm that held sway

1006
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:48,740
throughout the latter half of the 20th

1007
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:52,250
century breaking down but what is being

1008
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,470
substituted in its place as if it's on

1009
00:43:59,890 --> 00:43:57,200
the internet it's true if it's on an

1010
00:44:02,830 --> 00:43:59,900
e-book it's true and so on and so forth

1011
00:44:05,490 --> 00:44:02,840
so they're driving that mean in other

1012
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:05,500
words they're driving a dependency on

1013
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:09,890
machines and they're driving a kind of

1014
00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:13,760
intellectual passivity before the agenda

1015
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:15,230
here but the other thing that they're

1016
00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:19,040
doing in my mind Gregg is they're also

1017
00:44:29,110 --> 00:44:19,640
try

1018
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,120
create the acceptability of the merger

1019
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:32,240
of man and machine and to me that is the

1020
00:44:36,910 --> 00:44:34,730
most disturbing thing because you see

1021
00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:36,920
the transhumanist wanting to implant

1022
00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:39,950
people with microchips and so on and so

1023
00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:42,350
forth or download and upload memories

1024
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:44,060
into computers so that they can have

1025
00:44:48,070 --> 00:44:46,310
their virtual immortality and you know

1026
00:44:50,580 --> 00:44:48,080
all of this happy nonsense

1027
00:44:55,090 --> 00:44:50,590
to me that's the most frightening thing

1028
00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:55,100
because in that kind of environment what

1029
00:44:59,230 --> 00:44:56,540
you're taking out of the learning

1030
00:45:01,600 --> 00:44:59,240
process itself is the human mentor of

1031
00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:01,610
the teacher the professor would whatever

1032
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:05,270
you're taking out of the process the

1033
00:45:10,690 --> 00:45:07,490
human element and you're substituting a

1034
00:45:13,150 --> 00:45:10,700
very mechanistic element you're reducing

1035
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:13,160
the student to a machine you're reducing

1036
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:15,170
the student to an algorithm and this is

1037
00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:18,110
what I find to be the real heart of the

1038
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:21,260
problem here and if we can go a step

1039
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,650
further and envision this philosophy in

1040
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:26,960
place say in the next century well why

1041
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:29,570
even bother having a school where you

1042
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:31,970
interact with other human beings why not

1043
00:45:35,350 --> 00:45:33,890
just learn online at home and there are

1044
00:45:37,570 --> 00:45:35,360
some places doing this already

1045
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:37,580
mmm-hmm there are some places you know

1046
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:39,290
there they're not building libraries

1047
00:45:43,450 --> 00:45:41,090
full of old-fashioned things called

1048
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:43,460
books and you know where you're

1049
00:45:47,290 --> 00:45:45,260
interacting with other old-fashioned

1050
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,300
things like students and teachers you're

1051
00:45:51,550 --> 00:45:49,760
doing this all online right you know

1052
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:51,560
I've got news for people I write all of

1053
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:53,450
these books but most of the information

1054
00:45:56,980 --> 00:45:56,330
that are in my books you cannot find on

1055
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:56,990
the Internet

1056
00:46:00,940 --> 00:45:59,330
they're in old books they're in obscure

1057
00:46:03,730 --> 00:46:00,950
books you know they're in books that

1058
00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:03,740
that you have to literally buy and mark

1059
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:07,430
and read right so they're also the other

1060
00:46:11,110 --> 00:46:09,710
transhumanist impulse the third thing I

1061
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:11,120
think they're driving here is they are

1062
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:14,000
attempting by means of all of this to

1063
00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:17,690
cut people off from their own culture

1064
00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:20,630
and tradition and to me that is the

1065
00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:23,750
central core of the problem because in

1066
00:46:29,070 --> 00:46:26,360
the absence of a culture and tradition

1067
00:46:31,650 --> 00:46:29,080
basically anything goes

1068
00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:31,660
yeah well said those definitely are

1069
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:34,120
major problems and you know those old

1070
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:36,070
physical books can't be changed the way

1071
00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:39,310
digital Kindle books can bingo bingo

1072
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:42,100
bingo yeah I tell people all the time

1073
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,010
Greg that the only canonical version in

1074
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:47,200
other words the only authoritative

1075
00:46:54,750 --> 00:46:51,520
version of my books is the printed hard

1076
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:54,760
copy it is not the real you know I

1077
00:47:01,200 --> 00:46:58,000
format my books myself on my computer to

1078
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:01,210
look a certain way on the page and

1079
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:04,960
that's all eradicated on an e-book and

1080
00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:07,660
more importantly on an e-book if you're

1081
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,360
using that as your source what page do

1082
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,160
you cite what's the page number that

1083
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:14,560
it's on right you know it changes

1084
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:17,230
everything and I was taught when you're

1085
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:21,280
citing things you cite as specifically

1086
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:24,670
as possible so this is the other thing

1087
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:27,130
that they're doing in American education

1088
00:47:35,070 --> 00:47:31,150
I've ranted and raved on this a lot the

1089
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:35,080
standards now for citation of a text the

1090
00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:39,130
so-called MLA or APA style manuals would

1091
00:47:44,330 --> 00:47:42,040
not have been acceptable when I was

1092
00:47:48,030 --> 00:47:44,340
going to public school as an accurate

1093
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:48,040
citation when I cite it's the author

1094
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:50,410
it's the publisher it's the place of

1095
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:52,270
publication it was the year that it's

1096
00:47:58,590 --> 00:47:54,910
published the Edition if it's there and

1097
00:48:01,710 --> 00:47:58,600
the precise page on which you can find

1098
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:01,720
either the point I'm referencing or the

1099
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:04,210
quotation I'm using

1100
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,140
but modern methods of citation

1101
00:48:11,790 --> 00:48:09,359
oftentimes particularly in education

1102
00:48:14,190 --> 00:48:11,800
departments believe it or not don't

1103
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:14,200
require you to cite the page you simply

1104
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:17,050
cite the author and the year and then

1105
00:48:21,210 --> 00:48:19,089
you have to flip back to the biography

1106
00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:21,220
and there you find lo and behold you're

1107
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:23,560
citing a 500 page book and just telling

1108
00:48:27,930 --> 00:48:25,450
the poor person on the other hand go

1109
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:27,940
read this 500 page book it's in there

1110
00:48:34,740 --> 00:48:32,920
somewhere you know to me this is you

1111
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:34,750
know if I were to have received or

1112
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,119
submitted a paper like that when I was

1113
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:39,040
in high school guess what grade I would

1114
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:42,280
have received for it not a good one not

1115
00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:43,000
a good one

1116
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,820
this is Conor's in my world Lit class

1117
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:48,400
and Lincoln senior high school in Sioux

1118
00:48:52,890 --> 00:48:50,410
Falls South Dakota would have handed

1119
00:48:58,589 --> 00:48:52,900
that paper back to me with a great big

1120
00:49:00,810 --> 00:48:58,599
red letter F and rightly so but this is

1121
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:00,820
how the standards have changed right

1122
00:49:05,730 --> 00:49:03,369
since I was going to school to what's

1123
00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:05,740
happening now students aren't even aware

1124
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,080
of the fact that what they're being

1125
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:11,520
taught in terms of citations itself is

1126
00:49:18,810 --> 00:49:14,640
slipshod they're not even aware that

1127
00:49:22,650 --> 00:49:18,820
there was another method that demanded

1128
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:22,660
extreme accuracy from citation and the

1129
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:24,760
reason it demanded it is that's just

1130
00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:29,440
common courtesy now weird evolving on

1131
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:33,550
all sides manage yes identity yes mam so

1132
00:49:38,579 --> 00:49:35,950
on another note I had here about where

1133
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:38,589
this might tie into I guess potentially

1134
00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:40,630
the elite belief systems though is that

1135
00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:43,480
they want to reverse the stages of

1136
00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:45,790
esoteric man or the levels of Adam and

1137
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:48,790
return to and drogyny yeah can you get

1138
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:51,010
into that a little bit well that's not

1139
00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:52,570
something we actually covered in the

1140
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,150
common core book right I had a co-author

1141
00:49:59,460 --> 00:49:56,800
in a book

1142
00:50:01,790 --> 00:49:59,470
his name is dr. Scott to heart he's also

1143
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:01,800
in education and we wrote a book called

1144
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:03,910
transhumanism and the subtitle is a

1145
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:05,890
grimoire of our chemical agendas because

1146
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:09,180
there's a basic kind of esoteric

1147
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:13,180
doctrine of mankind that you find in

1148
00:50:17,730 --> 00:50:15,670
various esoteric systems and we we kind

1149
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:17,740
of had to boil it all down but basically

1150
00:50:21,860 --> 00:50:18,570
there's

1151
00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:21,870
four stages of the devolution of man and

1152
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:23,430
this this is very important for people

1153
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:25,290
to understand the ancient cosmological

1154
00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:28,290
system as opposed to the modern one was

1155
00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:30,060
not a system of evolution but of

1156
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:31,790
devolution all right

1157
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:34,260
evolution assumes you know eternal

1158
00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:36,930
upward progress the survival of the

1159
00:50:41,090 --> 00:50:38,460
fittest and so on and so forth

1160
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:41,100
devolution assumes that we were once

1161
00:50:46,070 --> 00:50:43,320
much higher in terms of our intellectual

1162
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:46,080
and moral capacity than we are now so

1163
00:50:51,830 --> 00:50:48,090
there were essentially four stages in

1164
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:51,840
that conceptual scaffolding for the

1165
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:54,690
devolution of man at the top and most

1166
00:50:59,570 --> 00:50:56,760
advanced stage there was this idea of

1167
00:51:03,200 --> 00:50:59,580
the androgen in other words mankind in

1168
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:03,210
his truest form combined both sexes into

1169
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:07,130
kind of a chi miracle creature and then

1170
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:11,090
mankind begins to fall so to speak into

1171
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:14,970
materiality and during that fall of

1172
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:17,250
course the sexes become divided so the

1173
00:51:24,740 --> 00:51:20,880
next lower stage would be mineral man

1174
00:51:26,570 --> 00:51:24,750
you know the fall into inert matter and

1175
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:26,580
then the next stage lower than that

1176
00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:29,430
would be vegetable man and then the

1177
00:51:36,350 --> 00:51:32,070
lowest stage would be animal man which

1178
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:36,360
is what we are now all right so you have

1179
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:39,120
in that ancient cosmological view if you

1180
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,010
look at it carefully there are certain

1181
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:42,960
features of it that resemble the modern

1182
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:46,490
one in that there's a kind of immaterial

1183
00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:49,590
pre-existence and then you have the

1184
00:51:54,770 --> 00:51:52,590
beginning of inert matter then you have

1185
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,780
the appearance of simple life in the

1186
00:51:58,610 --> 00:51:56,640
form of vegetative life and then you

1187
00:52:01,580 --> 00:51:58,620
have the emergence of more complex life

1188
00:52:04,730 --> 00:52:01,590
so in that sense it does resemble the

1189
00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:04,740
modern cosmology but if you look

1190
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:07,980
carefully at some of the esoteric

1191
00:52:13,580 --> 00:52:10,650
doctrines and in particular alchemy what

1192
00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:13,590
you see is an attempt to reassigned the

1193
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:17,720
latter and to go back up to the state of

1194
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:20,130
androgyny which is the highest

1195
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,570
expression of man well I suspect

1196
00:52:28,610 --> 00:52:26,400
although I again I want to stress your

1197
00:52:32,359 --> 00:52:28,620
grade I have no evidence for this but I

1198
00:52:37,999 --> 00:52:32,369
suspect that what lurks behind

1199
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:38,009
and the drive of so many people in the

1200
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:40,609
progressive movement in various

1201
00:52:46,339 --> 00:52:43,980
countries is that there's a solid core

1202
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:46,349
of people who have a very different

1203
00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:47,910
agenda from what they're telling people

1204
00:52:54,620 --> 00:52:50,099
publicly and that what they're trying to

1205
00:52:57,319 --> 00:52:54,630
do is to socially engineer society in

1206
00:52:59,779 --> 00:52:57,329
order to reach back and achieve that

1207
00:53:02,660 --> 00:52:59,789
state of androgynous consciousness I

1208
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:02,670
think this is what's driving this war

1209
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:07,529
against the sexes be it male or female a

1210
00:53:11,809 --> 00:53:09,690
note I said sex is not gender that's

1211
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:11,819
another little fast switcheroo that

1212
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,890
they've that they've played on us you

1213
00:53:17,690 --> 00:53:15,599
know I remember filling out forms when I

1214
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:17,700
was a kid what's your sex are you male

1215
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:20,160
or female but now it's gender and gender

1216
00:53:25,069 --> 00:53:22,380
is a linguistic property it's not a

1217
00:53:27,710 --> 00:53:25,079
sexual one you know there's Jews genders

1218
00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:27,720
in in the inflected languages like Greek

1219
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:30,390
or Latin or Russian or German or Spanish

1220
00:53:36,769 --> 00:53:33,660
or French and so on sexuality is very

1221
00:53:39,859 --> 00:53:36,779
very different so they're pulling a kind

1222
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:39,869
of a fast one with this gender agenda

1223
00:53:45,650 --> 00:53:41,700
because what they're trying to do in my

1224
00:53:48,650 --> 00:53:45,660
opinion is engineer a kind of sex free

1225
00:53:52,190 --> 00:53:48,660
or to put it even more accurately and

1226
00:53:55,489 --> 00:53:52,200
drogyn as consciousness hmm and that I

1227
00:53:58,460 --> 00:53:55,499
find very very disturbing because once

1228
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:58,470
you get people to accept this and get

1229
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:00,720
them living in a world of linguistic

1230
00:54:06,859 --> 00:54:03,630
virtual reality rather than in the real

1231
00:54:11,269 --> 00:54:06,869
world then you've severed people away

1232
00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:11,279
from from a mooring that can anchor them

1233
00:54:16,009 --> 00:54:13,559
in reality and you're creating a

1234
00:54:17,870 --> 00:54:16,019
situation where almost anything goes you

1235
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:17,880
know this to me is very very disturbing

1236
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:21,569
you see it almost everywhere now and to

1237
00:54:27,529 --> 00:54:24,900
me sexuality is one of those things that

1238
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:27,539
grounds you in reality in fact it's

1239
00:54:34,249 --> 00:54:30,690
probably the thing that grounds you in

1240
00:54:36,140 --> 00:54:34,259
reality so I find that whole agenda very

1241
00:54:37,609 --> 00:54:36,150
very you know don't take me wrong here

1242
00:54:39,259 --> 00:54:37,619
I'm not against gay people or

1243
00:54:40,819 --> 00:54:39,269
transgendered people or anything like

1244
00:54:43,549 --> 00:54:40,829
that that's not what I'm saying I'm

1245
00:54:46,220 --> 00:54:43,559
saying that this linguistic agenda of

1246
00:54:48,530 --> 00:54:46,230
theirs is ultimately going

1247
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:48,540
hurt everybody no matter where you fall

1248
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,630
on the sexual spectrum that's my point

1249
00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:53,760
it's a linguistic agenda it's a creation

1250
00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:55,710
of a kind of virtual reality that

1251
00:55:00,859 --> 00:54:56,940
benefits no one

1252
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,869
in the long run yeah man well said and

1253
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:03,119
that high-octane speculation that kind

1254
00:55:06,980 --> 00:55:04,710
of stuff that is the sweet spot for me

1255
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,990
it's a bit over my head at times but so

1256
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:08,640
interesting and I like the way you break

1257
00:55:13,609 --> 00:55:11,850
that stuff down so I want to get into

1258
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:13,619
your other book that came out this year

1259
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,450
but before we close out on the education

1260
00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:17,760
topic what sort of advice would you have

1261
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:20,070
for teachers or even parents who are

1262
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:22,290
being made aware of these problems and

1263
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:24,570
need some better options for their kids

1264
00:55:32,410 --> 00:55:27,690
well the first thing I would I would

1265
00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:32,420
advise is we are to the point I think

1266
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:34,920
socially and culturally and as a

1267
00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:37,680
civilization where we are just going to

1268
00:55:42,980 --> 00:55:40,950
have to stand up and say no we're fast

1269
00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:42,990
approaching the time that we are going

1270
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:45,150
to have to make some very hefty

1271
00:55:49,370 --> 00:55:47,130
decisions on what we're willing to die

1272
00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:49,380
for and I'm putting it that bluntly

1273
00:55:54,140 --> 00:55:51,270
because I believe the crisis is fast

1274
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:54,150
approaching that state of profundity but

1275
00:55:58,730 --> 00:55:55,890
the other thing I think the people that

1276
00:56:00,140 --> 00:55:58,740
once you've made that determination that

1277
00:56:02,450 --> 00:56:00,150
you're just going to stand up and say no

1278
00:56:05,540 --> 00:56:02,460
to all of this that the next thing you

1279
00:56:09,550 --> 00:56:05,550
have to do is start to organize how can

1280
00:56:12,250 --> 00:56:09,560
we resist all of this in a way that is

1281
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,260
so to speak particularly in this country

1282
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:15,119
constitutionally approved and the way I

1283
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:18,920
would suggest is that individual states

1284
00:56:27,859 --> 00:56:25,670
now need to the point special attorneys

1285
00:56:32,540 --> 00:56:27,869
prosecutors or whatever you wish to call

1286
00:56:34,970 --> 00:56:32,550
them that will will on the basis of 10th

1287
00:56:38,510 --> 00:56:34,980
and 14th amendment and so on and so

1288
00:56:40,750 --> 00:56:38,520
forth assert the right of state

1289
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:40,760
sovereignty against federal mandates

1290
00:56:45,620 --> 00:56:43,380
whatever federal mandates may come down

1291
00:56:48,490 --> 00:56:45,630
in all of these you know huge omnibus

1292
00:56:51,890 --> 00:56:48,500
bills that nobody in Congress reads

1293
00:56:54,109 --> 00:56:51,900
these have to be challenged all the way

1294
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:54,119
up to the Supreme Court just tie them up

1295
00:56:59,370 --> 00:56:57,040
in litigation

1296
00:57:02,070 --> 00:56:59,380
we saw something of that effort with

1297
00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:02,080
Obamacare but as far as I'm concerned

1298
00:57:06,540 --> 00:57:04,360
they rolled over way too early with that

1299
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:06,550
they should keep harping on that but

1300
00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:09,490
every other federal mandate you know the

1301
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:12,430
forced vaccinations common core you know

1302
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:15,430
everything that is tied to a federal

1303
00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:17,650
mandate of how states must spend their

1304
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:19,960
money should now be tied up in

1305
00:57:27,330 --> 00:57:23,950
litigation absolutely that to me is the

1306
00:57:31,140 --> 00:57:27,340
most practical way in the short term

1307
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,150
that I think that we can respond to some

1308
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:33,760
of this stuff and start fighting this

1309
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:36,270
this trend towards massive global

1310
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:39,250
centralization which as we can see isn't

1311
00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:43,150
working anywhere it's not working in

1312
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:45,640
Europe it's not working here it didn't

1313
00:57:48,980 --> 00:57:47,530
work in Russia the Russians learned that

1314
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:48,990
lesson so you know they're the ones

1315
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:52,330
crying the loudest lately about this

1316
00:57:57,060 --> 00:57:55,170
trend towards mr. global and letting

1317
00:57:59,370 --> 00:57:57,070
multinational corporations run

1318
00:58:01,500 --> 00:57:59,380
everything over and over you're hearing

1319
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:01,510
from Russia that no there is the

1320
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:03,760
sovereign nation is not obsolete thank

1321
00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:05,920
you very much mr. Rockefeller and mr.

1322
00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:08,500
Brzezinski and by golly we're going to

1323
00:58:11,130 --> 00:58:09,880
stick to it and we're going to defend

1324
00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:11,140
our country and we're going to defend

1325
00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:13,720
our culture and incidentally isn't it

1326
00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:17,220
interesting that Russia Russia is

1327
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:19,960
playing host to this year's

1328
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:22,270
international homeschooling conference

1329
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:23,880
mmm

1330
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:26,530
now turn the clock back thirty years

1331
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:29,290
folks and ask yourself if that would

1332
00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:31,980
have been possible in Brezhnev's or

1333
00:58:38,910 --> 00:58:35,470
Cherney anko's or an drop-offs or even

1334
00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:38,920
mr. Gorbachev to Russia no certainly not

1335
00:58:44,370 --> 00:58:41,260
so in other words it's like we're in

1336
00:58:46,590 --> 00:58:44,380
this upside-down world here the United

1337
00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:46,600
States is looking progressively more and

1338
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,700
more like the United Socialist States of

1339
00:58:53,970 --> 00:58:51,280
America the u.s. SA and Russia

1340
00:58:56,340 --> 00:58:53,980
you know if they even proudly display

1341
00:59:00,660 --> 00:58:56,350
the Romanoff eagle on their flags at the

1342
00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:00,670
time Russia is embarked on this weird

1343
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:06,520
new experiment in culture and nationhood

1344
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:09,220
a kind of post-postmodern experiment as

1345
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:11,920
I like to call it so it you know we're

1346
00:59:16,770 --> 00:59:14,080
just looking at this huge inversion this

1347
00:59:19,410 --> 00:59:16,780
is the fifth take like yeah you're right

1348
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:19,420
it does seem quite backwards I mean the

1349
00:59:22,290 --> 00:59:21,250
whole schooling system does and it seems

1350
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:22,300
like we're gonna have to resort to

1351
00:59:27,690 --> 00:59:24,970
handing out those secret passwords to

1352
00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:27,700
the underground educational speakeasies

1353
00:59:31,710 --> 00:59:28,870
before too long

1354
00:59:34,530 --> 00:59:31,720
waffles yes I I definitely think Greg I

1355
00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:34,540
definitely think that's coming oh no you

1356
00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:37,630
know already homeschooling has grown in

1357
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:40,660
this country enormous Lea in the past

1358
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:43,240
few years I think what's going to happen

1359
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:45,610
eventually is that those teachers in the

1360
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:48,130
pub I met a teacher just three weeks ago

1361
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,610
Greg that told me that she quit teaching

1362
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:54,160
because she just could not stand Common

1363
01:00:00,270 --> 00:59:57,370
Core because she had to conform to a

1364
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:00,280
lesson plan schedule that she hadn't

1365
01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:04,570
even made for her own students now what

1366
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:06,990
you know tell me that you can centralize

1367
01:00:12,270 --> 01:00:10,390
things to that point so what happens is

1368
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:12,280
you're driving out the good teachers

1369
01:00:16,830 --> 01:00:14,770
from the education system and trust me

1370
01:00:19,170 --> 01:00:16,840
eventually the people that can afford it

1371
01:00:21,330 --> 01:00:19,180
are going to start picking up those

1372
01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:21,340
teachers and you're going to see a

1373
01:00:26,850 --> 01:00:23,620
collapse of the system simply due to

1374
01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:26,860
market pressures mm-hmm because this

1375
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:29,470
system that we have now that we've

1376
01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:32,050
erected since you know the turn of the

1377
01:00:39,290 --> 01:00:35,260
late 19th century this system isn't

1378
01:00:43,590 --> 01:00:39,300
working it's producing a bumper crop of

1379
01:00:46,140 --> 01:00:43,600
stupid people who are more focused on

1380
01:00:48,990 --> 01:00:46,150
the latest football game than they are

1381
01:00:51,570 --> 01:00:49,000
on the Constitution or on physics or

1382
01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:51,580
mathematics or literature or music or

1383
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:53,950
whatever and by music incidentally folks

1384
01:00:58,260 --> 01:00:56,650
I don't mean the latest band you know I

1385
01:01:01,290 --> 01:00:58,270
mean something going back a couple

1386
01:01:03,870 --> 01:01:01,300
hundred years right right so you know we

1387
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:03,880
have a bumper crop of idiots in this

1388
01:01:08,550 --> 01:01:05,770
country and more and more I think the

1389
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:08,560
people that have the money recognize

1390
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:11,470
this and they're simply pulling their

1391
01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:13,570
kids out of this public education

1392
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:15,220
nightmare and again that's that comes

1393
01:01:21,930 --> 01:01:18,640
down to just saying no

1394
01:01:24,299 --> 01:01:21,940
and you said it man so to segue over

1395
01:01:26,749 --> 01:01:24,309
into hidden finance rogue networks and

1396
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:26,759
secret sorcery the fastest international

1397
01:01:31,259 --> 01:01:29,710
9/11 and penetrated operations I have to

1398
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:31,269
say that doing a show like this over the

1399
01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:33,730
years I've gotten a little bit of 9/11

1400
01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:34,839
fatigue weather

1401
01:01:40,380 --> 01:01:37,480
whether by accident or design or a

1402
01:01:43,739 --> 01:01:40,390
little bit of both Hillary Clinton

1403
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:43,749
Donald Trump fatigue I know oh yeah yeah

1404
01:01:48,269 --> 01:01:46,569
Touche and you know after having dr.

1405
01:01:50,339 --> 01:01:48,279
Judy Wood here and making her case for

1406
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:50,349
exotic energy weapons being used on the

1407
01:01:54,779 --> 01:01:52,450
Twin Towers I kind of expected to close

1408
01:01:56,999 --> 01:01:54,789
the books on it for a while but you dig

1409
01:01:58,739 --> 01:01:57,009
up some really interesting stuff in your

1410
01:02:01,680 --> 01:01:58,749
investigation it's got to be talked

1411
01:02:03,299 --> 01:02:01,690
about and it can be complex but just

1412
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:03,309
give us a little overview of the Joseph

1413
01:02:10,499 --> 01:02:06,190
Farrell approach to the 9/11 events well

1414
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:10,509
my approach is essentially similar to

1415
01:02:16,859 --> 01:02:14,049
other 9/11 truth researchers but my

1416
01:02:18,809 --> 01:02:16,869
conclusions are very very different in

1417
01:02:20,999 --> 01:02:18,819
any criminal investigation particularly

1418
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:21,009
where murder is involved you want to

1419
01:02:26,279 --> 01:02:23,410
know what the murder weapon is right and

1420
01:02:29,279 --> 01:02:26,289
in the case of the Twin Towers if you

1421
01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:29,289
look at the 9/11 truth community there

1422
01:02:36,479 --> 01:02:33,190
has been literally a an inability of

1423
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:36,489
people to talk to each other civilly you

1424
01:02:41,249 --> 01:02:38,230
know you mentioned dr. Judy wood well

1425
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:41,259
there are some people out there in the

1426
01:02:46,170 --> 01:02:43,450
9/11 truth community that absolutely

1427
01:02:48,509 --> 01:02:46,180
hate her and through you know for

1428
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:48,519
proposing the idea right we should be on

1429
01:02:54,479 --> 01:02:51,730
the same side yeah and you know how she

1430
01:02:57,420 --> 01:02:54,489
manages to keep her head and remain

1431
01:02:59,940 --> 01:02:57,430
courteous to these people I just don't

1432
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,950
know but but you know they've come up

1433
01:03:04,589 --> 01:03:01,440
with some of the most ludicrous

1434
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:04,599
criticisms of her you know I read one

1435
01:03:09,539 --> 01:03:07,089
guy proposing the model of many nukes as

1436
01:03:11,999 --> 01:03:09,549
the mechanism for the destruction of the

1437
01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:12,009
twin towers just absolutely raking her

1438
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:13,630
over the coals because she didn't

1439
01:03:18,479 --> 01:03:16,450
provide a model for how she thought this

1440
01:03:21,749 --> 01:03:18,489
exotic energy weaponry would work well

1441
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:21,759
my question back to him is explain to me

1442
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:23,890
how a mini nuke works what's the

1443
01:03:28,019 --> 01:03:25,930
critical mass what's the nuclear fuel

1444
01:03:30,329 --> 01:03:28,029
what's the neutron cross-section what's

1445
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:30,339
the half-life and so on and so forth and

1446
01:03:35,370 --> 01:03:31,810
they'd never do

1447
01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:35,380
so you know it's tit for tat as far as

1448
01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:37,750
I'm concerned what she's trying to do is

1449
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:39,580
simply propose a model that she thinks

1450
01:03:42,810 --> 01:03:41,290
makes sense of certain amounts of the

1451
01:03:44,370 --> 01:03:42,820
evidence and the same with the many new

1452
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:44,380
people and the same with controlled

1453
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:46,930
demolition people and so on and so forth

1454
01:03:53,490 --> 01:03:48,850
my approach to the question of the

1455
01:03:56,130 --> 01:03:53,500
murder weapon is that why must we

1456
01:03:59,400 --> 01:03:56,140
conclude when we have evidence for all

1457
01:04:03,420 --> 01:03:59,410
of these models and all of these models

1458
01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:03,430
have certain problems mm-hmm also all

1459
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:06,580
right so my approach is is it's kind of

1460
01:04:10,620 --> 01:04:08,770
like the old Agatha Christie novel

1461
01:04:12,930 --> 01:04:10,630
Murder on the Orient Express you know

1462
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:12,940
they made a movie out of this with Peter

1463
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:15,370
Ustinov and at the end of the movie you

1464
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:18,400
know like all Agatha Christie books the

1465
01:04:24,060 --> 01:04:21,730
detective in this case ikuo Poirot gets

1466
01:04:26,670 --> 01:04:24,070
everybody together in a room and gives

1467
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:26,680
the solution you know wraps it all up in

1468
01:04:31,770 --> 01:04:29,770
a neat tidy package with a bow on well

1469
01:04:33,980 --> 01:04:31,780
in the case of murder on the Orient

1470
01:04:37,890 --> 01:04:33,990
Express what you had was a case of

1471
01:04:40,830 --> 01:04:37,900
everybody murdering the victim but using

1472
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:40,840
a different way to do it so in other

1473
01:04:45,390 --> 01:04:43,690
words this to me describes the 9/11

1474
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:45,400
truth community perfectly because

1475
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:47,170
they've all assumed that there's only

1476
01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:51,310
one level of deeper player involved in

1477
01:04:59,370 --> 01:04:54,640
9/11 and therefore the murder weapon

1478
01:05:02,160 --> 01:04:59,380
must reflect that player mm-hmm what I'm

1479
01:05:05,610 --> 01:05:02,170
suggesting is that even at the deep

1480
01:05:07,860 --> 01:05:05,620
level of the operation that you might

1481
01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:07,870
have been dealing with a penetrated

1482
01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:10,630
operation and that there might be even

1483
01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:14,800
deeper levels than a second level rogue

1484
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:17,470
network operating inside the American

1485
01:05:22,170 --> 01:05:19,330
government and how would they signal

1486
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:22,180
their presence well if they penetrated

1487
01:05:27,870 --> 01:05:25,690
an operation in which they knew that

1488
01:05:30,090 --> 01:05:27,880
some of the mechanisms to take down the

1489
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:30,100
Twin Towers would be either

1490
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:33,430
controlled demolitions or nano-thermite

1491
01:05:38,610 --> 01:05:36,370
or many nukes you know the three the

1492
01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:38,620
three standard ones that most 9/11

1493
01:05:42,290 --> 01:05:40,030
truthers accept well how would you

1494
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:42,300
signal your presence to that group and

1495
01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:45,760
pin it to its own plan like a chest

1496
01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:50,590
well you do so by using a technology

1497
01:05:55,830 --> 01:05:53,080
that signaled to that group that planned

1498
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:55,840
and orchestrated the event that signaled

1499
01:06:00,650 --> 01:05:57,490
to them that they were facing another

1500
01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:00,660
player that had just revealed itself

1501
01:06:08,580 --> 01:06:03,760
okay and this is what I think actually

1502
01:06:10,830 --> 01:06:08,590
happens you do have I think enough

1503
01:06:13,770 --> 01:06:10,840
signatures of some sort of exotic

1504
01:06:16,530 --> 01:06:13,780
technology there at 9/11 that fall

1505
01:06:18,540 --> 01:06:16,540
outside the three standard mechanisms of

1506
01:06:21,090 --> 01:06:18,550
controlled demolitions be it standard

1507
01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:21,100
explosives nano thermite or mini nukes I

1508
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:23,230
do think that dr. Wood is absolutely

1509
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:26,410
correct on this so the real question is

1510
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:30,160
what does that signify in terms of the

1511
01:06:34,350 --> 01:06:32,410
perpetrators well to me it signifies

1512
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:34,360
that you're dealing with three levels

1513
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:36,910
not two you're dealing with the patsies

1514
01:06:41,220 --> 01:06:38,770
you know the people flying the airplanes

1515
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:41,230
into the buildings at a deeper level

1516
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:44,560
you're dealing with a rogue network

1517
01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:46,990
within the American intelligence

1518
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:50,620
community that had the capacity to plan

1519
01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:52,690
the event and to plant controlled

1520
01:06:57,330 --> 01:06:55,060
demolitions or had access to many nukes

1521
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:57,340
or nano-thermite and so on and so forth

1522
01:07:02,430 --> 01:07:00,400
and what's their goal well their goal is

1523
01:07:04,410 --> 01:07:02,440
to do exactly what happened to inject

1524
01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:04,420
American power into the Middle East

1525
01:07:09,930 --> 01:07:07,120
and this is what they did but the

1526
01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:09,940
problem there is as I've always thought

1527
01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:13,300
Greg is you wouldn't have needed to

1528
01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:16,120
destroy those buildings you would only

1529
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:18,460
have needed to severely damage them in

1530
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:22,000
order to create enough of a climate of

1531
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:24,730
opinion to inject American power in that

1532
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:27,310
way it's when the building's come down

1533
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:29,710
with whatever exotic technology that

1534
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:32,050
brings them down that you're dealing

1535
01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:34,240
with a penetrated operation and

1536
01:07:39,630 --> 01:07:37,000
particularly I think if dr. wood is

1537
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:39,640
correct and I happen to think she is you

1538
01:07:45,090 --> 01:07:41,920
know I've adhered to the exotic weaponry

1539
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:45,100
hypothesis myself since 9/11 happened

1540
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:47,740
you know I watched it happened so that

1541
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:50,170
was my first thought when I saw what

1542
01:07:55,770 --> 01:07:53,440
happened so you know she's not alone she

1543
01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:55,780
certainly is kind of out there alone on

1544
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:58,240
her own trying to defend the hypothesis

1545
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,200
but she's certainly

1546
01:08:04,589 --> 01:08:01,599
not the only one that advocated it there

1547
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:04,599
was another gentleman that did so years

1548
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:07,150
before she published her book and then

1549
01:08:11,339 --> 01:08:09,070
he later retracted it but you know I

1550
01:08:13,410 --> 01:08:11,349
review what he said in my book very

1551
01:08:17,579 --> 01:08:13,420
carefully so I'm looking at a hair cool

1552
01:08:19,410 --> 01:08:17,589
a Paro Agatha Christie Murder on the

1553
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:19,420
Orient Express type of thing where

1554
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:23,650
everybody everybody essentially is in on

1555
01:08:28,019 --> 01:08:25,330
the movie but they're in on the murder I

1556
01:08:32,670 --> 01:08:28,029
should say but using a different murder

1557
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:32,680
weapon yeah oh man I really find this

1558
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,640
penetration pretty exciting but you know

1559
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:39,040
I guess like most penetrations but um

1560
01:08:43,289 --> 01:08:41,410
you know to break down the three levels

1561
01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:43,299
you say level one we have the patsies

1562
01:08:48,030 --> 01:08:45,299
the hijackers the official narrative

1563
01:08:50,099 --> 01:08:48,040
level 2 we have the planners from within

1564
01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:50,109
the American military apparatus there's

1565
01:08:55,769 --> 01:08:52,750
got to be some and then thirdly this

1566
01:08:57,690 --> 01:08:55,779
fascist international right who seemed

1567
01:09:00,840 --> 01:08:57,700
to flip the script on the other two

1568
01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:00,850
right up at some point that is the best

1569
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:04,750
and most succinctly reason and the

1570
01:09:10,110 --> 01:09:07,920
people are going to stay fascists

1571
01:09:12,170 --> 01:09:10,120
they're going to think what in the name

1572
01:09:16,499 --> 01:09:12,180
of sense is he talking about well in

1573
01:09:18,329 --> 01:09:16,509
researching the 9/11 phenomenon I

1574
01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:18,339
noticed something that again just

1575
01:09:24,959 --> 01:09:20,950
mystifies me that the 9/11 truth

1576
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:24,969
community researchers don't pursue you

1577
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,670
know I found this in doing the JFK book

1578
01:09:31,950 --> 01:09:29,920
right whenever they're confronted with a

1579
01:09:35,579 --> 01:09:31,960
mysterious fascist connection what do

1580
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:35,589
they do they don't investigate so let's

1581
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:37,690
look at what that connection is and most

1582
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:40,660
people you know when i from this greg my

1583
01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:43,839
jaw i I literally was sitting here in my

1584
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:46,180
place you know no one else is in the

1585
01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:47,890
room and I just said out loud you're

1586
01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:52,540
kidding and I dug a little deeper and I

1587
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:55,390
thought again you've got to be kidding

1588
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:55,570
me

1589
01:10:02,640 --> 01:09:58,690
you know so I'm just putting out there

1590
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:02,650
what I found all right let's begin with

1591
01:10:08,970 --> 01:10:06,730
what happens after 9/11 when the 9/11

1592
01:10:11,729 --> 01:10:08,980
truth community goes into full

1593
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:11,739
skepticism mode of the official

1594
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,900
narrative

1595
01:10:16,580 --> 01:10:15,120
one of the first things that they find a

1596
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:16,590
fellow by the name of Douglas hops

1597
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:19,410
occurred did a book called terror land

1598
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:21,900
alright it's all about the flight school

1599
01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:24,000
that Mohammed Atta and some of his

1600
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:26,940
cohorts attended in Venice Florida

1601
01:10:35,390 --> 01:10:32,690
alright okay and he found first of all a

1602
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:35,400
quotation by the then British Prime

1603
01:10:40,460 --> 01:10:37,980
Minister Tony Blair where Blair said

1604
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:40,470
that al-qaeda is nothing but a global

1605
01:10:48,350 --> 01:10:46,140
network okay now global network implies

1606
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,360
something right off the bat number one

1607
01:10:53,870 --> 01:10:50,880
financing number two organization and

1608
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:53,880
number three deep deep connections right

1609
01:11:00,260 --> 01:10:57,570
so who could that be now when he says

1610
01:11:02,150 --> 01:11:00,270
Network he could have said power but he

1611
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:02,160
doesn't say anything to indicate that

1612
01:11:08,570 --> 01:11:06,450
it's a particular nation involved be it

1613
01:11:11,470 --> 01:11:08,580
the Saudis the Israelis the Russians

1614
01:11:14,450 --> 01:11:11,480
United States nobody Jesus says network

1615
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:14,460
so I dig a little further and I find an

1616
01:11:19,670 --> 01:11:17,610
interesting quotation by a Russian

1617
01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:19,680
economist by the name of dr. Tatiana

1618
01:11:26,810 --> 01:11:22,860
choreography that appeared in Pravda Jim

1619
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:26,820
Marrs dug this one up and she stated and

1620
01:11:31,790 --> 01:11:28,890
this was approximately I think a couple

1621
01:11:33,410 --> 01:11:31,800
of months before 9/11 and again my

1622
01:11:34,970 --> 01:11:33,420
memory is a little foggy it may be in a

1623
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:34,980
couple months after but in any case

1624
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:38,610
within the window she says that the

1625
01:11:44,420 --> 01:11:40,770
United States is going to be attacked on

1626
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:44,430
its own soil in a kind of fake terrorist

1627
01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:47,010
attack but really it's coming from a

1628
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:49,860
group a small group of very powerful

1629
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:53,490
people a network she calls it which has

1630
01:12:01,520 --> 01:11:57,930
in excess of 30 trillion dollars huh add

1631
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:01,530
its disposal to recreate the world the

1632
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:03,810
way they want pretty on the nose yeah

1633
01:12:08,060 --> 01:12:05,850
pretty on those I'm thinking okay here

1634
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:08,070
we have Tony Blair says it's a network

1635
01:12:12,980 --> 01:12:10,320
and we have a Russian economist writing

1636
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:12,990
in Pravda that says it's a network okay

1637
01:12:20,330 --> 01:12:16,290
is not a country so in other words we're

1638
01:12:22,850 --> 01:12:20,340
dealing there right off the bat with a

1639
01:12:25,850 --> 01:12:22,860
kind of prima facie indication that

1640
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:25,860
there's a third level to this thing that

1641
01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:26,610
exceed

1642
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:29,460
any particular nation-state player

1643
01:12:33,650 --> 01:12:32,010
including rogue groups within American

1644
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:33,660
intelligence now they can certainly be

1645
01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:35,370
connected to that third network we're

1646
01:12:41,330 --> 01:12:38,460
going to get to that so I'm reading

1647
01:12:43,820 --> 01:12:41,340
Daniel hop stickers book called murder

1648
01:12:45,260 --> 01:12:43,830
in terror land or something I forget the

1649
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:45,270
exact title of the book right off the

1650
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,480
top of my head excellent book hops occur

1651
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,400
goes down and he investigates the flight

1652
01:12:54,590 --> 01:12:52,560
school in Venice Florida and he

1653
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:54,600
investigates none other than Mohammed

1654
01:13:00,890 --> 01:12:59,280
Atta okay and he points out something

1655
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:00,900
that floored me

1656
01:13:06,350 --> 01:13:04,110
he points out that most of Mohammed

1657
01:13:10,730 --> 01:13:06,360
Atta's friends that would come to visit

1658
01:13:16,670 --> 01:13:10,740
him weren't Arabs they were people with

1659
01:13:19,310 --> 01:13:16,680
names like Jurgen Hans Wolfgang and so

1660
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:19,320
on so you know my suspicion needle

1661
01:13:23,540 --> 01:13:20,910
immediately begins to creep into the

1662
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:23,550
yellow zone so I do a little more

1663
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,250
digging and you discover that Mohammed

1664
01:13:30,020 --> 01:13:28,320
Atta comes to this country from guess

1665
01:13:32,900 --> 01:13:30,030
where he comes to this country from

1666
01:13:36,770 --> 01:13:32,910
Hamburg Germany where he had been living

1667
01:13:39,230 --> 01:13:36,780
for a number of years with an unnamed

1668
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:39,240
and nobody to my knowledge to this date

1669
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:42,450
has named this German couple in a

1670
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:44,490
middle-class neighborhood in Hamburg

1671
01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:47,910
Germany dig a little further you find

1672
01:13:54,110 --> 01:13:51,780
that Mohamed Atta was recruited by again

1673
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:54,120
an anonymous German couple when he was

1674
01:13:58,820 --> 01:13:54,960
in Cairo

1675
01:14:01,700 --> 01:13:58,830
well recruited for what and why Germans

1676
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:01,710
you know why not the Muslim Brotherhood

1677
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:03,210
why not you know

1678
01:14:10,570 --> 01:14:06,510
the Saudis and the Wahabis why not Hamas

1679
01:14:14,510 --> 01:14:10,580
why not Hezbollah but no Germans of them

1680
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:14,520
now to me right there Greg what what

1681
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:17,490
this should have sparked in the 9/11

1682
01:14:22,430 --> 01:14:19,770
truth community was a tremendous amount

1683
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:22,440
of curiosity why is that connection

1684
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:27,770
there and why has nobody investigated

1685
01:14:33,260 --> 01:14:31,530
well I'll tell you why they probably did

1686
01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:33,270
do a little investigating but were a

1687
01:14:38,150 --> 01:14:36,030
little hesitant to go there dig a little

1688
01:14:40,129 --> 01:14:38,160
further into Mohammed Atta and you

1689
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:40,139
discover that during his year

1690
01:14:47,719 --> 01:14:44,070
in Germany he was sponsored by a society

1691
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:47,729
called the Karl Duisburg ghazal Shah and

1692
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:51,209
when I found that Greg the suspicion

1693
01:14:57,649 --> 01:14:53,610
needle went from yellow to red right

1694
01:15:01,459 --> 01:14:57,659
okay on my suspicion meter because Karl

1695
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:01,469
Duisburg was one of the founding members

1696
01:15:06,589 --> 01:15:04,050
he was the head of buyer during World

1697
01:15:07,909 --> 01:15:06,599
War one okay that should tell you what

1698
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:07,919
this guy is

1699
01:15:16,299 --> 01:15:11,280
he becomes a founding member of I G

1700
01:15:19,339 --> 01:15:16,309
Farben and sits on the board okay now

1701
01:15:22,489 --> 01:15:19,349
this means that Muhammad Atta is being

1702
01:15:25,580 --> 01:15:22,499
sponsored in Germany by a society named

1703
01:15:27,949 --> 01:15:25,590
for one of the founders of IG Farben so

1704
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:27,959
my suspicion meter goes a little further

1705
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:31,050
into the red zone it's got to yeah it's

1706
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:33,360
got to you know and you dig into the

1707
01:15:38,629 --> 01:15:35,489
Karl Duisburg society and you find oh

1708
01:15:41,779 --> 01:15:38,639
it's a wonderful society sponsored by

1709
01:15:44,029 --> 01:15:41,789
people like Bill Clinton and Henry

1710
01:15:46,129 --> 01:15:44,039
Kissinger and you know all these big

1711
01:15:49,339 --> 01:15:46,139
German industrialists and so on and so

1712
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:49,349
forth so we have a society sponsoring

1713
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:52,320
Mohammad Atta named after an IG Farben

1714
01:15:57,529 --> 01:15:55,050
safty member that's connected to all of

1715
01:16:01,639 --> 01:15:57,539
these let's be honest here globalists

1716
01:16:05,779 --> 01:16:01,649
alright so I did a little further I find

1717
01:16:09,290 --> 01:16:05,789
out that there's a banker involved in

1718
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:09,300
all of this by the name of Francoise

1719
01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:14,729
Janu ge in oh you D is a Swiss French

1720
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:20,369
banker he was the banker of record for

1721
01:16:27,409 --> 01:16:24,570
the estates of Adolf Hitler for yosef

1722
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:27,419
Gibble's he handled all the Nazi

1723
01:16:34,219 --> 01:16:30,239
accounts in Switzerland during and after

1724
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:34,229
a second clue after the war and Oh

1725
01:16:39,049 --> 01:16:37,050
lookie lookie he has ties to this

1726
01:16:41,659 --> 01:16:39,059
post-war Nazi international I've been

1727
01:16:43,549 --> 01:16:41,669
talking about and Oh looky looky he just

1728
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:43,559
happens to be the bank roller for a

1729
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:45,329
number of international terrorist groups

1730
01:16:51,020 --> 01:16:48,239
and Oh looky looky he just happens to be

1731
01:16:52,669 --> 01:16:51,030
the banker for guess who the bin Laden

1732
01:16:57,470 --> 01:16:52,679
family

1733
01:17:01,520 --> 01:16:57,480
ha that connected them to guess what

1734
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:01,530
Deutsche Bank so in other words I'm

1735
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:03,210
looking at all of this Greg and I'm

1736
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:06,090
seeing this suspicious German connection

1737
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:10,170
here that nobody and I I mean that quite

1738
01:17:16,399 --> 01:17:13,650
literally that nobody to my knowledge

1739
01:17:20,660 --> 01:17:16,409
has ever brought up in connection with

1740
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:20,670
this unnamed global network that Tony

1741
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:23,760
Blair and Tatiana Coriana suggested and

1742
01:17:28,820 --> 01:17:26,489
the problem here is whether we like it

1743
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:28,830
or not when we're dealing with Francoise

1744
01:17:35,060 --> 01:17:30,719
Janu we're dealing with a man who lived

1745
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:35,070
on up into the 1990s and he was deeply

1746
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:37,170
connected to all of these different

1747
01:17:42,770 --> 01:17:40,409
fascist groups so it does look to me

1748
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:42,780
like we're dealing yet again with some

1749
01:17:49,790 --> 01:17:46,560
sort of global for one of the better

1750
01:17:53,090 --> 01:17:49,800
expression fascist mafia that is behind

1751
01:17:55,970 --> 01:17:53,100
this now the problem is could this be

1752
01:18:00,709 --> 01:17:55,980
the group that would have had access to

1753
01:18:03,050 --> 01:18:00,719
an exotic energy technology such as dr.

1754
01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:03,060
wood or the fellow that I review in the

1755
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:05,550
book have suggested might have been

1756
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:08,010
involved as one of the quote-unquote

1757
01:18:13,970 --> 01:18:11,130
murder weapons well if you've read any

1758
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,980
of my books about this this post-war

1759
01:18:18,050 --> 01:18:15,840
Nazi international you'll discover that

1760
01:18:20,959 --> 01:18:18,060
all along I've been arguing that this

1761
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:20,969
group when it fled Europe at the end of

1762
01:18:27,530 --> 01:18:24,480
World War two deliberately made an

1763
01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:27,540
effort to retain control of its most

1764
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:31,080
exotic and advanced hidden research

1765
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:34,650
black projects and simply relocated all

1766
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:37,370
of these initially to South America so

1767
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:40,080
over time with enough money and so on

1768
01:18:45,770 --> 01:18:42,690
could such a group have access to

1769
01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:45,780
technologies like that well we have to

1770
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:47,460
look at none other than than the

1771
01:18:52,669 --> 01:18:49,920
Secretary of Defense William Cohen under

1772
01:18:55,970 --> 01:18:52,679
Bill Clinton who had a conference said

1773
01:18:57,649 --> 01:18:55,980
yes we we are very worried that

1774
01:18:59,720 --> 01:18:57,659
terrorist groups are going to get their

1775
01:19:02,180 --> 01:18:59,730
hands on some of these exotic weapons

1776
01:19:03,919 --> 01:19:02,190
and be able to manipulate weather or

1777
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:03,929
create earthquakes and so on and so

1778
01:19:07,020 --> 01:19:05,410
forth so he's in

1779
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:07,030
lying by the nature of the case right

1780
01:19:12,150 --> 01:19:08,890
there that there's an exotic energy

1781
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:12,160
technology that is not in the hands of

1782
01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:14,650
any one sovereign nation that's in the

1783
01:19:19,170 --> 01:19:17,080
hands of somebody else so you know

1784
01:19:21,180 --> 01:19:19,180
connect the dots at one end and and the

1785
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:21,190
other and I think you see what the

1786
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:24,010
picture is right great summary and it is

1787
01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:26,950
a tangled web for sure oh absolutely I

1788
01:19:31,860 --> 01:19:29,830
mean I was when I found out this stuff

1789
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:31,870
about Mohammed Atta Greg I was just

1790
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:34,210
dumbfounded yeah you know it was

1791
01:19:39,090 --> 01:19:37,030
confirmation of an intuition that I had

1792
01:19:41,850 --> 01:19:39,100
when 9/11 happened you know we were all

1793
01:19:44,820 --> 01:19:41,860
glued to the television set and to me it

1794
01:19:46,830 --> 01:19:44,830
was like you know III was a boy during

1795
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:46,840
the JFK assassination and it was like

1796
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:50,170
deja vu because you know that already

1797
01:19:55,050 --> 01:19:52,480
they were putting out a certain spin a

1798
01:19:56,430 --> 01:19:55,060
certain storyline but I was as I was

1799
01:19:57,900 --> 01:19:56,440
watching all this I was thinking no

1800
01:20:00,080 --> 01:19:57,910
doesn't make sense there's something

1801
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:00,090
much much deeper going on here and right

1802
01:20:06,690 --> 01:20:03,310
you know the other aspects of 9/11 only

1803
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,700
seem to confirm this webster tarpley for

1804
01:20:10,620 --> 01:20:07,840
a number of years and i think quite

1805
01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:10,630
rightly has been arguing that 9/11 has

1806
01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:12,670
aspects of a coup d'etat if you look

1807
01:20:21,090 --> 01:20:16,000
closely yes and the you know I narrowly

1808
01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:21,100
avoided coup d'etat and you know coupled

1809
01:20:26,060 --> 01:20:23,320
with this Mohammed Atta connection to

1810
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:26,070
you know IG Farben societies and

1811
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:28,210
international bankers with ties to the

1812
01:20:35,670 --> 01:20:31,930
Saudis and the bin Laden's everything

1813
01:20:39,180 --> 01:20:35,680
else it's a very very murky picture so

1814
01:20:41,310 --> 01:20:39,190
yeah 9/11 you know I was kind of like

1815
01:20:44,130 --> 01:20:41,320
you dragged when I decided to write the

1816
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:44,140
book it was well do I do I write this

1817
01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:46,810
and put it out there or do I fall victim

1818
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:49,900
to my own sense of 9/11 exhaustion and I

1819
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:52,480
just decided well no it's it's time to

1820
01:20:56,370 --> 01:20:54,850
put this out there because there may be

1821
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:56,380
another way of looking at this whole

1822
01:21:00,510 --> 01:20:57,970
thing that even the 9/11 truth movement

1823
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:00,520
hasn't really considered right and I'm

1824
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:02,770
so glad you did put it out there but as

1825
01:21:06,750 --> 01:21:05,170
we start to wrap this up by the time

1826
01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:06,760
this show airs because I don't think

1827
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:07,990
we're going to get it out in time it's

1828
01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:09,850
going to be close but will most likely

1829
01:21:14,010 --> 01:21:12,340
know who the next president is and on

1830
01:21:16,710 --> 01:21:14,020
the plus side we can actually get

1831
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:16,720
through all this drama but as I've been

1832
01:21:20,820 --> 01:21:18,910
reading your 9/11 breakdown and hearing

1833
01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:20,830
about these multiple levels in the

1834
01:21:24,450 --> 01:21:22,780
notion that it seems like the fascist

1835
01:21:26,430 --> 01:21:24,460
international network has somewhat

1836
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:26,440
broken off from the American machine as

1837
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:28,510
it seems to be declining and its

1838
01:21:32,910 --> 01:21:30,760
usefulness I'm curious how you see this

1839
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:32,920
relating to the supporters of the two

1840
01:21:37,140 --> 01:21:34,930
horses in the presidential race or the

1841
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:37,150
back-and-forth FBI investigation of

1842
01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:39,490
Clinton or really anything between the

1843
01:21:44,370 --> 01:21:41,080
lines of what we're seeing in the

1844
01:21:47,220 --> 01:21:44,380
mainstream news well I've said all along

1845
01:21:50,850 --> 01:21:47,230
that my approach to this election and

1846
01:21:52,620 --> 01:21:50,860
the two candidates first of all I view

1847
01:21:57,210 --> 01:21:52,630
this election not simply as an election

1848
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:57,220
I view it as a referendum on two very

1849
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:00,480
very different ideologies of the future

1850
01:22:08,490 --> 01:22:04,410
one is one ideology is the standard

1851
01:22:11,340 --> 01:22:08,500
globalist mantra of the obsolescence of

1852
01:22:14,250 --> 01:22:11,350
the nation-state you know the

1853
01:22:18,060 --> 01:22:14,260
multicultural agenda the the centrality

1854
01:22:20,670 --> 01:22:18,070
model and everything being run by big

1855
01:22:24,260 --> 01:22:20,680
corporations for the glorious benefit of

1856
01:22:27,630 --> 01:22:24,270
the big corporations and the other

1857
01:22:31,290 --> 01:22:27,640
candidate represents an ideology opposed

1858
01:22:33,330 --> 01:22:31,300
to this centralizing model that is

1859
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:33,340
reasserting the sovereignty of the

1860
01:22:36,930 --> 01:22:34,090
nation-state

1861
01:22:40,620 --> 01:22:36,940
the centrality of having a culture and

1862
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:40,630
protecting and defending it and when you

1863
01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:44,110
look at it in that fashion and I've been

1864
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:45,910
saying this you know for a number of

1865
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:47,920
months now since since Donald Trump

1866
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:52,960
emerged as the Republican nominee what I

1867
01:23:02,760 --> 01:22:57,970
think you see is these two candidates

1868
01:23:06,660 --> 01:23:02,770
really represent two factions of the

1869
01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:06,670
American deep state that are battling it

1870
01:23:12,750 --> 01:23:10,720
out right behind the scenes you know

1871
01:23:16,380 --> 01:23:12,760
I've made no bones I call Trump the

1872
01:23:18,330 --> 01:23:16,390
Mafia candidate because you cannot be in

1873
01:23:21,060 --> 01:23:18,340
the business he's in particularly where

1874
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:21,070
he's you know done most of his business

1875
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:25,330
without having to have had at some point

1876
01:23:31,470 --> 01:23:28,330
in your business dealings dealings with

1877
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:31,480
what we now call the mob or the Mafia

1878
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:33,070
now there's one thing about the American

1879
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:35,110
Mafia that people forget and that is it

1880
01:23:42,780 --> 01:23:38,410
is intensely patriotic has been

1881
01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:42,790
traditionally so and he therefore to me

1882
01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:44,470
represents that segment of the American

1883
01:23:49,260 --> 01:23:46,060
deep State that's looked at these

1884
01:23:51,180 --> 01:23:49,270
globalists and neo-cons and seen nothing

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01:23:54,660 --> 01:23:51,190
but a track record of disaster and

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01:23:57,870 --> 01:23:54,670
particularly in in the mafia's case with

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01:24:00,180 --> 01:23:57,880
Obamacare and everything else so gutting

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01:24:03,060 --> 01:24:00,190
the leisure capital of the middle class

1889
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:03,070
this is cut very very heavily into the

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01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:05,290
casino business if you go out to Vegas

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01:24:08,940 --> 01:24:07,090
and places like that business is

1892
01:24:11,610 --> 01:24:08,950
dramatically down from where it used to

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01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:11,620
be so he represents you know a segment

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01:24:17,010 --> 01:24:14,710
of that economic interest that is

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01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:17,020
looking at this track record and seeing

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01:24:22,650 --> 01:24:19,510
things are not going the way that they

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01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:22,660
should so I view this as a contest

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01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:24,670
really between not only different

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01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:26,410
opposing ideologies but different

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01:24:30,810 --> 01:24:28,300
factions within the American deep State

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01:24:34,020 --> 01:24:30,820
now it's interesting that just I think

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01:24:37,620 --> 01:24:34,030
yesterday Gregg was that dr. Steven -

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01:24:39,930 --> 01:24:37,630
chanak a psychiatrist that has had

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01:24:40,440 --> 01:24:39,940
dealings with and had been part of the

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01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:40,450
CIA

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01:24:46,110 --> 01:24:43,120
just came out with a YouTube video where

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01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:46,120
he said that in effect what you're

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:48,690
seeing now is a soft counter coup

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01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:50,890
against Hillary Clinton and the

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01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:53,470
globalists by a group of people within

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01:24:57,410 --> 01:24:55,120
the American military intelligence

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:24:57,420
community that are deeply dissatisfied

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01:25:02,490 --> 01:24:59,770
with the direction that things have been

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01:25:04,890 --> 01:25:02,500
going for the last thirty years

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01:25:07,050 --> 01:25:04,900
under under the Bush Clinton Nexus and

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01:25:08,729 --> 01:25:07,060
again that plays very well to what I

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01:25:11,340 --> 01:25:08,739
said earlier about the Economist

1918
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:11,350
magazine op-ed piece about the British

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01:25:15,810 --> 01:25:13,090
you know looking at this election back

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01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:15,820
in 2015 and seeing nothing but the

1921
01:25:20,130 --> 01:25:17,320
calcification of the American political

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01:25:21,330 --> 01:25:20,140
class and and no new solutions just the

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01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:21,340
same old same old

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01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:23,710
and more of it and you know I think the

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01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:26,560
brexit vote in a certain sense was the

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01:25:31,050 --> 01:25:29,170
British deep state taking stock of where

1927
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:31,060
this is all going and deciding you know

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01:25:35,010 --> 01:25:32,770
we want out of it and we're going to go

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01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:35,020
a different direction so there's a lot

1930
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:37,510
riding on this election there's much

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01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:40,330
more going on here I think then meets

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01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:43,450
the eye behind the scenes and to put the

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01:25:49,989 --> 01:25:44,719
icing on the cake for that

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01:25:52,089 --> 01:25:49,999
analysis I began to get very very I

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01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:52,099
would I won't say suspicious but in a

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01:25:57,459 --> 01:25:54,800
certain sense to have this kind of

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01:26:01,140 --> 01:25:57,469
analysis confirmed by the way Donald

1938
01:26:04,839 --> 01:26:01,150
Trump dealt with Jeb Bush and dealt with

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01:26:07,719 --> 01:26:04,849
senator Cruz because you'll recall

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01:26:10,839 --> 01:26:07,729
during the the Republican primary season

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01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:10,849
he came out as they were debating with

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01:26:18,609 --> 01:26:15,110
that statement against Jeb Bush where he

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01:26:21,759 --> 01:26:18,619
actually succeeded in injecting part of

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01:26:24,430 --> 01:26:21,769
the 9/11 truth narrative into the

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01:26:26,589 --> 01:26:24,440
political debate mmm-hmm you know by

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01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:26,599
questioning the Bush families potential

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01:26:32,830 --> 01:26:27,920
role in it yeah

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01:26:34,689 --> 01:26:32,840
now that was huge because what and he

1949
01:26:36,430 --> 01:26:34,699
did it with a sense of finesse and

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01:26:39,129 --> 01:26:36,440
timing but I don't think many people

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01:26:42,729 --> 01:26:39,139
appreciate because Bush's candidacy was

1952
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,739
already failing and that just injected

1953
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:44,719
the final coup de Gras and Bush dropped

1954
01:26:51,009 --> 01:26:48,170
out within days of that remark huh and I

1955
01:26:53,729 --> 01:26:51,019
think it was because you know by someone

1956
01:26:58,270 --> 01:26:53,739
of Trump's stature injecting that into

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01:27:03,040 --> 01:26:58,280
the mainstream meant that they could no

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01:27:05,319 --> 01:27:03,050
longer take refuge behind the official

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01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:05,329
narrative and then what happened to

1960
01:27:10,509 --> 01:27:08,030
senator Cruz well he dropped that little

1961
01:27:15,009 --> 01:27:10,519
bombshell about senator Cruz's father

1962
01:27:19,299 --> 01:27:15,019
having been in New Orleans and in the

1963
01:27:21,399 --> 01:27:19,309
circle of people that surrounded Lee

1964
01:27:22,839 --> 01:27:21,409
Harvey Oswald and therefore you know he

1965
01:27:25,779 --> 01:27:22,849
was he was making the implicit

1966
01:27:28,899 --> 01:27:25,789
connection of senator Cruz to the JFK

1967
01:27:31,149 --> 01:27:28,909
assassination well as a response to this

1968
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:31,159
of course senator Cruz began by denying

1969
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:32,960
and and so on and so forth but

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01:27:38,770 --> 01:27:36,050
eventually the researchers were able to

1971
01:27:40,899 --> 01:27:38,780
show that senator senator Cruz's father

1972
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:40,909
really was in New Orleans and apparently

1973
01:27:45,250 --> 01:27:43,210
did have some sort of loose network

1974
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:45,260
connection to that whole circle of

1975
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:47,210
goings on down there so what happened to

1976
01:27:52,010 --> 01:27:49,050
senator Cruz well

1977
01:27:55,399 --> 01:27:52,020
his donations began to fail dramatically

1978
01:27:59,390 --> 01:27:55,409
after that statement and sooner rather

1979
01:28:02,120 --> 01:27:59,400
than later he drops out of the race now

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01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:02,130
what that signals to me is that somebody

1981
01:28:11,709 --> 01:28:06,570
is feeding Donald Trump with a lot of

1982
01:28:18,020 --> 01:28:15,169
studied practice on when and how to drop

1983
01:28:21,799 --> 01:28:18,030
those little zingers yeah into the

1984
01:28:24,109 --> 01:28:21,809
conversation besides the fact that I

1985
01:28:28,250 --> 01:28:24,119
strongly suspect that Trump himself is

1986
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:28,260
an individual that would be inclined to

1987
01:28:33,890 --> 01:28:31,710
to question official narratives and read

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01:28:36,140 --> 01:28:33,900
things on his own so I think this is

1989
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:36,150
coming from a two-fold source within the

1990
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:38,010
Trump campaign I think he's being fed

1991
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:39,840
intelligence and he's being carefully

1992
01:28:43,879 --> 01:28:42,449
steered as to how and when he drops

1993
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:43,889
these little zingers into the

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01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:46,290
conversation mm-hmm and he's not afraid

1995
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:49,050
of doing so you know he's dropped a

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01:28:52,490 --> 01:28:50,880
number of zingers into the presidential

1997
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:52,500
debates he dropped at quite a few

1998
01:28:59,450 --> 01:28:56,690
zingers in in that joint dinner with

1999
01:29:02,870 --> 01:28:59,460
Cardinal what's-his-name everybody that

2000
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:02,880
he and Hillary appeared at he's done

2001
01:29:07,339 --> 01:29:05,520
this repeatedly and this this plus the

2002
01:29:10,069 --> 01:29:07,349
fact that Stephen Botanic has come out

2003
01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:10,079
with the soft coupe the soft two video

2004
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:14,460
has suggests to me by way of a kind of

2005
01:29:20,899 --> 01:29:16,170
confirmation that yes there's some sort

2006
01:29:24,770 --> 01:29:20,909
of an ad-hoc intelligence presence in

2007
01:29:27,859 --> 01:29:24,780
the Trump campaign that is very very

2008
01:29:29,899 --> 01:29:27,869
dissatisfied with with what Clinton

2009
01:29:31,850 --> 01:29:29,909
represents which is basically more of

2010
01:29:34,459 --> 01:29:31,860
the same Bush Clinton stuff that we've

2011
01:29:36,140 --> 01:29:34,469
had for the last thirty years so there's

2012
01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:36,150
a lot going on in this election

2013
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:39,000
Greg behind the scenes you know your

2014
01:29:43,459 --> 01:29:41,520
guess is as good as mine or people's

2015
01:29:46,060 --> 01:29:43,469
guesses out there as good as mine but

2016
01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:46,070
that's kind of that's kind of my take on

2017
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:48,480
what's happening yeah

2018
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:50,730
man I love the way you read between the

2019
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:52,650
lines but Wow

2020
01:29:56,930 --> 01:29:55,290
Joseph always always a highlight for me

2021
01:29:58,939 --> 01:29:56,940
to get you here to do this you break

2022
01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:58,949
down these complex situations with such

2023
01:30:02,030 --> 01:30:01,199
clarity I think you set a serious gold

2024
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,040
standard for

2025
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:04,080
the conspiratorial research community

2026
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:05,370
and I'd have you here every month if I

2027
01:30:09,230 --> 01:30:07,890
could but before we call it in remind

2028
01:30:10,610 --> 01:30:09,240
everyone where they can dig deeper into

2029
01:30:32,110 --> 01:30:10,620
your work and even support you as a

2030
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:51,020
www.pevs.com

2031
01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:53,650
they can they can do either one of those

2032
01:30:57,980 --> 01:30:56,490
awesome well another one in the can I

2033
01:30:59,300 --> 01:30:57,990
can't thank you enough keep fighting the

2034
01:31:01,070 --> 01:30:59,310
good fight out there all right my man

2035
01:31:02,300 --> 01:31:01,080
all right thank you for having me back

2036
01:31:05,930 --> 01:31:02,310
Greg you got it

2037
01:31:09,050 --> 01:31:05,940
all right people Joseph P Ferrell always

2038
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:09,060
always one of my favorites he spent an

2039
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:11,070
extra half hour with me so big thanks to

2040
01:31:17,630 --> 01:31:13,610
him too extended episodes back-to-back

2041
01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:17,640
how about that guys some people have

2042
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:19,710
asked where the newsletter is and it is

2043
01:31:24,620 --> 01:31:21,930
behind because I'm trying to launch

2044
01:31:26,270 --> 01:31:24,630
t-shirt brand 2.0 and I want to include

2045
01:31:28,220 --> 01:31:26,280
that in the newsletter instead of having

2046
01:31:30,590 --> 01:31:28,230
to wait another month or send out two

2047
01:31:33,020 --> 01:31:30,600
stupid emails and we're closed for real

2048
01:31:35,810 --> 01:31:33,030
close so I'm trying to roll it all up

2049
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:35,820
into one thing but as for this show I

2050
01:31:41,180 --> 01:31:38,130
definitely find the common core stuff

2051
01:31:43,790 --> 01:31:41,190
really creepy and I'm glad so glad that

2052
01:31:46,340 --> 01:31:43,800
I don't have kids right now I'm also

2053
01:31:48,050 --> 01:31:46,350
very lucky that the person I'm marrying

2054
01:31:50,390 --> 01:31:48,060
is on board with some type of

2055
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:50,400
alternative schooling but we still don't

2056
01:31:55,130 --> 01:31:52,800
want to raise no weirdos so you got to

2057
01:31:58,030 --> 01:31:55,140
be careful it can be a slippery slope

2058
01:32:00,800 --> 01:31:58,040
but the aspect of these computerized

2059
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:00,810
personally adaptable tests in this data

2060
01:32:04,820 --> 01:32:03,330
collection tie-in where the data can be

2061
01:32:06,710 --> 01:32:04,830
sold to corporations and they can

2062
01:32:09,170 --> 01:32:06,720
analyze it a thousand different ways and

2063
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:09,180
cater marketing specifically to you for

2064
01:32:13,220 --> 01:32:11,520
the rest of your life no good

2065
01:32:15,850 --> 01:32:13,230
when these nefarious companies have

2066
01:32:17,500 --> 01:32:15,860
basically all these little sub company

2067
01:32:20,620 --> 01:32:17,510
their umbrella they're going to use it

2068
01:32:23,140 --> 01:32:20,630
any way they can this data teachers have

2069
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:23,150
no power parents have no power the

2070
01:32:28,510 --> 01:32:25,850
material is proprietary it's a creepy

2071
01:32:30,670 --> 01:32:28,520
direction for education to be going in

2072
01:32:34,060 --> 01:32:30,680
and I'm glad Joseph decided to tackle it

2073
01:32:36,190 --> 01:32:34,070
same with 911 so many people say it's

2074
01:32:38,710 --> 01:32:36,200
the Jews that use the Jews Israel and

2075
01:32:41,770 --> 01:32:38,720
there is a Jewish sector but I just

2076
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:41,780
don't know if it holds as much power as

2077
01:32:45,790 --> 01:32:44,330
it did in the rothschild days I think

2078
01:32:49,450 --> 01:32:45,800
there's really something to this

2079
01:32:51,700 --> 01:32:49,460
powerful post-war Nazi cabal and where

2080
01:32:53,380 --> 01:32:51,710
we've seen their influence but it's not

2081
01:32:55,420 --> 01:32:53,390
an either/or I've been listening to a

2082
01:32:56,770 --> 01:32:55,430
lot of Robert Anton Wilson lately I

2083
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:56,780
think he's just a really compelling

2084
01:33:03,220 --> 01:32:59,600
speaker I like manly P Hall too but he

2085
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:03,230
was just a few decades too soon for

2086
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:05,930
quality audio recordings the ones I get

2087
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:07,730
are usually pretty poor but anyway

2088
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:10,010
Robert Anton Wilson he reiterates

2089
01:33:15,460 --> 01:33:12,530
several times in this lecture that I was

2090
01:33:17,830 --> 01:33:15,470
listening to that no model can encompass

2091
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:17,840
everything which is also kind of his

2092
01:33:22,510 --> 01:33:19,730
beef with conspiracy folks is their

2093
01:33:24,580 --> 01:33:22,520
narrow models but it is true there's

2094
01:33:27,070 --> 01:33:24,590
always going to be something left out I

2095
01:33:29,020 --> 01:33:27,080
try to stay away from those types of

2096
01:33:31,420 --> 01:33:29,030
absolute statements for just that reason

2097
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:31,430
but in this context I mention it only

2098
01:33:35,770 --> 01:33:33,110
because if you think a lot of control

2099
01:33:37,210 --> 01:33:35,780
comes from one area don't have blinders

2100
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:37,220
on to other areas

2101
01:33:41,710 --> 01:33:39,650
I fully think we have a Jew thing going

2102
01:33:43,750 --> 01:33:41,720
on a Jesuit thing that's pretty serious

2103
01:33:46,450 --> 01:33:43,760
a triple-crown control problem

2104
01:33:48,130 --> 01:33:46,460
overarching iconic influence and a Nazi

2105
01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:48,140
fascist international network and even

2106
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:49,760
that model wouldn't include everything

2107
01:33:54,610 --> 01:33:52,370
you got your think tanks you got your

2108
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:54,620
secret societies you got your

2109
01:33:59,230 --> 01:33:56,690
multinationals it's a tangled web for

2110
01:34:01,900 --> 01:33:59,240
sure but that's ok I like to think that

2111
01:34:04,780 --> 01:34:01,910
at least as the show progresses we

2112
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:04,790
examine all threads pretty equally but

2113
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:06,290
I'm wrapping this thing up soon it's

2114
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:08,810
actually 6 p.m. my time on election

2115
01:34:15,580 --> 01:34:11,890
night the electoral votes right now our

2116
01:34:19,780 --> 01:34:15,590
trump 60 Clinton 44 I'm looking at a

2117
01:34:22,690 --> 01:34:19,790
popular vote of Trump 51% Clinton 46% I

2118
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:22,700
would be really really shocked if

2119
01:34:28,510 --> 01:34:25,280
Hillary didn't win because I'm just so

2120
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:28,520
used to the boring thing happening Trump

2121
01:34:31,540 --> 01:34:29,810
would definitely be the chaos

2122
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:31,550
candidate I don't think he's pure by any

2123
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:33,650
means but he definitely would be the

2124
01:34:38,590 --> 01:34:36,560
more exciting chaos candidate if that's

2125
01:34:39,970 --> 01:34:38,600
what you're looking for and I don't even

2126
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:39,980
know that that's what I'm looking for

2127
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:42,410
I'm just saying when you look at the way

2128
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:44,210
the media has basically completely

2129
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:46,010
ignored the Podesta emails and the

2130
01:34:51,130 --> 01:34:48,110
Clinton Foundation stuff and instead

2131
01:34:54,610 --> 01:34:51,140
said that Trump is so scary I mean every

2132
01:34:58,030 --> 01:34:54,620
celebrity every media host it's all just

2133
01:34:59,620 --> 01:34:58,040
about how scary Trump is and how we have

2134
01:35:02,140 --> 01:34:59,630
to hold our nose and vote for Clinton I

2135
01:35:05,620 --> 01:35:02,150
mean everybody I can't remember a time

2136
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:05,630
when people have been so aggressive

2137
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:08,210
about telling audiences who to vote for

2138
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:12,170
and how disastrous how apocalyptic the

2139
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:13,760
other candidate would be I mean I know

2140
01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:16,370
this happens to a degree but I think we

2141
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:18,080
can all acknowledge that there's

2142
01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:19,370
something different going on this time

2143
01:35:25,810 --> 01:35:21,710
so there is an argument to be made that

2144
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:25,820
why would they set that trap not to use

2145
01:35:30,910 --> 01:35:28,400
it you drill into everyone's head how

2146
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:30,920
dangerous it will be if X happens and

2147
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:34,130
then you don't make X happen I don't

2148
01:35:38,110 --> 01:35:36,410
know there's the argument that the elite

2149
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:38,120
are changing the game up and this might

2150
01:35:42,490 --> 01:35:40,970
parallel the brexit vote where everybody

2151
01:35:44,710 --> 01:35:42,500
goes to bed positive it's going to go

2152
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one way they wake up and it goes the

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01:35:50,290 --> 01:35:46,910
other way with the nationalistic choice

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01:35:53,020 --> 01:35:50,300
yeah that's possible but those options

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01:35:54,970 --> 01:35:53,030
are too chaotic for boring old America

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01:35:57,910 --> 01:35:54,980
we're getting Clinton I'm saying it

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01:35:59,710 --> 01:35:57,920
right now by morning I might completely

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01:36:02,170 --> 01:35:59,720
regret even talking about it but that's

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01:36:03,940 --> 01:36:02,180
what I see happening but as for those

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01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:03,950
Podesta emails yeah they're creepy and

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01:36:07,570 --> 01:36:05,570
I'm sure we'll be getting into that in a

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01:36:09,700 --> 01:36:07,580
full show once I feel confident that

2163
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:09,710
it's all out there and we can talk about

2164
01:36:15,190 --> 01:36:12,320
it in full but if you do want to hear

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01:36:17,470 --> 01:36:15,200
more THC right now the Plus show today

2166
01:36:18,670 --> 01:36:17,480
is excellent all the 9/11 stuff was

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01:36:21,370 --> 01:36:18,680
going to be the plus show but since

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01:36:23,650 --> 01:36:21,380
Joseph gave me an extra half hour we got

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01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:23,660
to at least introduce everybody to his

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01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:26,210
9/11 analysis we did go deeper in the

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01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:27,920
plus show and then we talked about CERN

2172
01:36:32,050 --> 01:36:30,110
and the secret agenda behind the Large

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01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:32,060
Hadron Collider and how it relates to

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01:36:35,740 --> 01:36:33,890
this fascist international network the

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01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:35,750
Nazi bell and the off-the-books physics

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01:36:39,580 --> 01:36:38,000
we've talked about before we also talked

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01:36:42,490 --> 01:36:39,590
about other areas where we've seen some

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01:36:43,570 --> 01:36:42,500
of these exotic technologies tested the

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01:36:45,070 --> 01:36:43,580
Malaysian Airlines

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01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:45,080
disappearance the Bermuda Triangle

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01:36:51,850 --> 01:36:47,840
Norway spiral all might be examples of

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01:36:53,740 --> 01:36:51,860
it I also love love love the talk about

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01:36:56,110 --> 01:36:53,750
fighting in the Middle East might be

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01:36:58,840 --> 01:36:56,120
over cuneiform tablets and ancient

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01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,850
technologies buried in Babylon and that

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01:37:02,500 --> 01:37:00,560
might have been the coded language of

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01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:02,510
weapons of mass destruction and that

2188
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:05,690
whole meme provocative stuff indeed we

2189
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:08,320
also revisited the nefarious corporation

2190
01:37:12,250 --> 01:37:10,400
SAIC that we talked about in the

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01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:12,260
Camellia episode with Robert Guffey

2192
01:37:16,060 --> 01:37:14,330
because Joseph Ferrell relates some

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01:37:18,460 --> 01:37:16,070
super strong and sketchy connections

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01:37:22,690 --> 01:37:18,470
they have 9/11 so they need to be on the

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01:37:24,340 --> 01:37:22,700
radar guys SAIC but all great stuff

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01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,350
I hope you'll support the show by

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becoming a plus member the free 7-day

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offer is still going strong but sign up

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and get the full length and girth of the

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01:37:34,030 --> 01:37:32,420
higher side chats but I'm going to get

2201
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:34,040
out of here and find out who's going to

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01:37:38,620 --> 01:37:36,290
take this wheel as we watch the shadowy

2203
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:38,630
puppet masters drive us right into the

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01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:40,850
ground see you next time

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01:37:45,940 --> 01:37:43,010
your move Nazi fascist international

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01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:45,950
network in the common core cabal you're

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01:38:01,020 --> 01:37:56,930
oh no you see no doesn't random

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01:38:08,530 --> 01:38:01,030
it's attached to my strength control

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01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:08,540
over everything a 95 is trying to steal

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01:38:15,290 --> 01:38:12,370
yeah now don't that jabs him say Lee

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01:38:21,110 --> 01:38:15,300
hello

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01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:21,120
hear me should I play back recordings

2213
01:38:36,980 --> 01:38:33,590
I'll be thankful when it's all exposed

2214
01:39:17,950 --> 01:38:36,990
the fats and spacing there's such a

2215
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:42,919
here

2216
01:39:55,379 --> 01:39:51,089
No they're cartoons and so typical of me

2217
01:40:03,959 --> 01:39:55,389
to talk about the stuff I'm sorry that's

2218
01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:03,969
good and well did you ever hear argument

2219
01:40:12,810 --> 01:40:07,510
the nothing really happens it's no

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01:40:59,730 --> 01:40:12,820
secret let the bad stay

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01:40:59,740 --> 01:41:03,750
we

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01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:27,729
Oh

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01:41:27,739 --> 01:41:36,850
you

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01:41:36,860 --> 01:42:02,320
there

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01:42:02,330 --> 01:42:12,629
challenging

2226
01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:16,820
we can

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01:42:16,830 --> 01:42:29,340
and the one where we

2228
01:42:33,220 --> 01:42:31,660
hey guys thanks for listening to the

2229
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:33,230
first hour of the higher side chats

2230
01:42:37,630 --> 01:42:35,600
podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

2231
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:37,640
don't know there is a second hour to all

2232
01:42:41,710 --> 01:42:40,010
the episodes we do around here generally

2233
01:42:43,450 --> 01:42:41,720
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

2234
01:42:45,460 --> 01:42:43,460
topics and ideas that a guest is about

2235
01:42:48,580 --> 01:42:45,470
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

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01:42:50,770 --> 01:42:48,590
THC for free consider signing up at the

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01:42:52,750 --> 01:42:50,780
higher side chats plus com to get the

2238
01:42:55,060 --> 01:42:52,760
second hour of the 5 shows I put

2239
01:42:56,980 --> 01:42:55,070
together each month I never really

2240
01:42:58,690 --> 01:42:56,990
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

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01:43:00,670 --> 01:42:58,700
but I really hate the idea of spending

2242
01:43:02,770 --> 01:43:00,680
airtime promoting some product that's

2243
01:43:04,450 --> 01:43:02,780
completely unrelated and telling you the

2244
01:43:07,210 --> 01:43:04,460
best way to support the show is to buy

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01:43:08,890 --> 01:43:07,220
an audio book or new underwear by mail

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01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:08,900
or something crazy like that so instead

2247
01:43:13,060 --> 01:43:11,450
if you like the show double your time

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01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:13,070
with it for five bucks a month and let's

2249
01:43:16,780 --> 01:43:15,170
cut out all the other it's half the

2250
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:16,790
price of a movie ticket and you get at

2251
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:18,560
least an extra five hours of show a

2252
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:21,170
month collectively it keeps us stable

2253
01:43:24,580 --> 01:43:22,970
and it frees me from wasting your time

2254
01:43:27,130 --> 01:43:24,590
with anything but the show you came to

2255
01:43:29,110 --> 01:43:27,140
listen to it's really the only way for

2256
01:43:30,910 --> 01:43:29,120
an independent one-man show to make it

2257
01:43:33,130 --> 01:43:30,920
and I do what I can so that it's worth

2258
01:43:35,110 --> 01:43:33,140
your while since we started this I've

2259
01:43:37,150 --> 01:43:35,120
always tried to use the subscriptions to

2260
01:43:39,700 --> 01:43:37,160
improve the podcast and make signups

2261
01:43:41,620 --> 01:43:39,710
more advantageous it started with just a

2262
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:41,630
second hour for the main show but now

2263
01:43:45,340 --> 01:43:43,310
we've got a nice forum going where

2264
01:43:47,050 --> 01:43:45,350
people can get deeper in conversation

2265
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:47,060
about the episodes with other listeners

2266
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:49,970
submit a candidate in the guest request

2267
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:51,850
thread or share their own personal

2268
01:43:55,930 --> 01:43:53,690
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

2269
01:43:58,540 --> 01:43:55,940
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

2270
01:44:00,220 --> 01:43:58,550
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

2271
01:44:01,930 --> 01:44:00,230
the Plus comments are always the first

2272
01:44:04,180 --> 01:44:01,940
places I try to go for listener

2273
01:44:06,550 --> 01:44:04,190
engagement but it does get harder as the

2274
01:44:08,380 --> 01:44:06,560
show gets more popular because of that

2275
01:44:09,850 --> 01:44:08,390
there's also a direct messaging feature

2276
01:44:12,700 --> 01:44:09,860
that you can use to reach me through the

2277
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:12,710
plus site also but beyond the forum if

2278
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:14,210
you like any of the music I've used for

2279
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:16,490
THC most of it I've hired artists to

2280
01:44:20,530 --> 01:44:18,290
make and I provided all its free

2281
01:44:21,970 --> 01:44:20,540
downloads to plus members too so if you

2282
01:44:24,190 --> 01:44:21,980
like a particular song you've heard

2283
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:24,200
close the show out recently come get the

2284
01:44:28,540 --> 01:44:26,570
mp3 I should also mention that if you

2285
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:28,550
don't like the idea of paying $5

2286
01:44:33,070 --> 01:44:30,890
recurring every month I get that you can

2287
01:44:35,410 --> 01:44:33,080
buy three months six months or a year

2288
01:44:37,150 --> 01:44:35,420
upfront and just be done with it I have

2289
01:44:39,730 --> 01:44:37,160
plenty of listeners who send checks and

2290
01:44:41,050 --> 01:44:39,740
money orders to the PIO box too I try to

2291
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:41,060
make it as easy for people

2292
01:44:44,830 --> 01:44:42,770
as I can and you can read more about it

2293
01:44:47,380 --> 01:44:44,840
on the signup page also be sure to check

2294
01:44:49,060 --> 01:44:47,390
out the FAQ help page on the plus site

2295
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:49,070
if you have any questions or concerns

2296
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:50,080
about how to listen to a

2297
01:44:54,010 --> 01:44:52,130
password-protected show on your devices

2298
01:44:56,290 --> 01:44:54,020
I've highlighted a lot of great

2299
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:56,300
solutions and one of those would be the

2300
01:45:00,880 --> 01:44:58,370
iPhone app that just recently hit the

2301
01:45:03,010 --> 01:45:00,890
Apple App Store a super kind and

2302
01:45:04,870 --> 01:45:03,020
talented listener made it for us and you

2303
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:04,880
can use it to stream or download either

2304
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:07,040
the free or the plus show if you're on

2305
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:10,010
Android I'd use pocket casts or podcast

2306
01:45:14,170 --> 01:45:11,600
addict and subscribe to the feed

2307
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:14,180
manually that way I also try to throw an

2308
01:45:18,850 --> 01:45:16,880
occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

2309
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:18,860
I've got a few other weird ideas I might

2310
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:21,050
get to try out soon but I give you all I

2311
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:22,970
can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

2312
01:45:26,350 --> 01:45:24,650
least give it a shot if you've listened

2313
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:26,360
to a few free shows and you find them

2314
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:28,130
unique or valuable I know there's a lot

2315
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:29,930
of podcasts out there and I'm just one

2316
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:32,090
of them but if you have any questions

2317
01:45:35,410 --> 01:45:33,890
concerns or comments about any of this

2318
01:45:38,290 --> 01:45:35,420
please get in touch with us at the

2319
01:45:40,210 --> 01:45:38,300
higher side chats team at gmail.com I

2320
01:45:41,620 --> 01:45:40,220
also wanted to plug the higher side

2321
01:45:43,450 --> 01:45:41,630
newsletter I'm going to be putting out

2322
01:45:45,910 --> 01:45:43,460
totally free for anyone who wants to

2323
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:45,920
sign up at the main internet website for

2324
01:45:49,990 --> 01:45:48,110
the show the higher side chats com

2325
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:50,000
you can also get on that email list

2326
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:51,770
through the higher side chats Facebook

2327
01:45:55,180 --> 01:45:53,510
page there's a button there as well

2328
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:55,190
but the reason I'm doing this is because

2329
01:45:59,860 --> 01:45:57,770
I get tons and tons of emails after a

2330
01:46:01,900 --> 01:45:59,870
show goes up asking me about how I feel

2331
01:46:03,580 --> 01:46:01,910
about a particular guest or topic and

2332
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:03,590
the wrap-up isn't always the best place

2333
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:05,570
to do that especially if I have anything

2334
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:07,610
negative to say sometimes the dust needs

2335
01:46:11,950 --> 01:46:09,470
to settle sometimes I need to hear

2336
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:11,960
feedback from you guys first there are a

2337
01:46:15,130 --> 01:46:13,520
lot of factors but I usually have

2338
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:15,140
something to communicate to you and I

2339
01:46:19,180 --> 01:46:17,570
just don't get to do it so on the first

2340
01:46:20,770 --> 01:46:19,190
of the month I plan to send out a little

2341
01:46:23,140 --> 01:46:20,780
newsletter with my thoughts about the

2342
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:23,150
five shows the previous month and talk

2343
01:46:27,190 --> 01:46:25,040
to you about anything else that's on my

2344
01:46:29,020 --> 01:46:27,200
mind or that's going on and what's

2345
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:29,030
probably most enticing is that I'm going

2346
01:46:32,650 --> 01:46:30,560
to give you some insight into at least

2347
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:32,660
one guest I have coming up in the month

2348
01:46:36,730 --> 01:46:34,730
which people have been begging for some

2349
01:46:38,740 --> 01:46:36,740
posted schedule for a long time I

2350
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:38,750
personally think I'd like the surprise

2351
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:40,370
but sign up for the higher side

2352
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:42,410
newsletter it's free it comes out on the

2353
01:46:45,610 --> 01:46:43,730
first of the month and I won't waste

2354
01:46:48,190 --> 01:46:45,620
your time with any other emails and

2355
01:46:50,290 --> 01:46:48,200
that's it I appreciate you listening I

2356
01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:50,300
try to give alternative ideas and guests

2357
01:46:54,939 --> 01:46:52,490
a fair shake on a high-quality podcast

2358
01:46:56,919 --> 01:46:54,949
expose some deep level conspiracies

2359
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,929
without the yelling and I hope to offer

2360
01:47:00,759 --> 01:46:58,639
some inspiration that even though the

2361
01:47:03,069 --> 01:47:00,769
system relentlessly suggests you should

2362
01:47:04,899 --> 01:47:03,079
follow their blueprint to mediocrity you

2363
01:47:07,209 --> 01:47:04,909
can do your own thing and live a much

2364
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:07,219
happier life despite all the negativity